Filed by WPS Resources
Corporation
Pursuant to Rule 425
under the Securities Act of 1933, as amended,
and deemed as filed pursuant to Rule 14a-12
under
the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as amended
Subject Company: WPS
Resources Corporation
Commission File Number: 1-11337
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WPS RESOURCES CORPORATION
Transcript of Conference Call
July 10, 2006
9:00 a.m. CT
Operator: |
Welcome
to the conference call on the announced combination of WPS Resources Corporation and
Peoples Energy Corporation. |
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At
this time all participants lines have been placed in a listen-only mode. Following
todays presentation instructions will be given for the question and answer session
should you wish to participate. |
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At
the request of WPS Resources and Peoples Energy, todays call will be recorded for
instant replay. |
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At
this time I would like to turn the conference call over to Mr. Larry Weyers, Chairman,
President, and CEO of WPS Resources. You may go ahead sir. |
Larry Weyers: |
Thank
you. With me today is Thomas M. Patrick, Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer
of Peoples Energy. Also with us on the call are Joe OLeary, Senior Vice President
and Chief Financial Officer of WPS Resources and Tom Nardi, Executive Vice President and
Chief Financial Officer of Peoples Energy. |
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Before
we begin I need to point out that this presentation contains forward-looking statements
within the definition of the Securities and Exchange Commissions Safe Harbor rules
including pro forma and other information regarding the proposed combination of WPS
Resources and Peoples Energy. |
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Forward-looking
statements are beyond the ability of WPS Resources and Peoples Energy to control and in
many cases neither WPS Resources nor Peoples Energy can predict what factors would cause
actual results to differ materially from those indicated by forward-looking statements. I
refer you to the forward-looking statement section of todays press release and to
our filed Securities and Exchange Commission disclosure documents for further
information. |
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As
we announced earlier this morning WPS Resources and Peoples Energy have reached agreement
on a definitive merger agreement that will combine our two great companies. Both
companies are very excited about this transaction and believe that it represents a
powerful strategic and financial combination. Today we would like to review with you the
highlights of the transaction and benefits to key stakeholders after which we will take
your questions. |
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If
you havent already acquired the slides for todays presentation you might want
to do that now. The slides are available on www.wpsr.com and also on
www.peoplesenergy.com under the Investor Information section after which you then select
Presentations. |
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Lets
start by beginning with a look at the transaction highlights and I direct your attention
to slide 4 of the presentation. We believe this is a compelling transaction that creates
a larger, stronger, and more diversified regulated utility business in the Midwest. In a
consolidating industry in which size and scale matters, were convinced that both
companies have found the best possible partner. |
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The
combined company will obtain the majority of its earnings from low risk utility
operations as is the case now for both companies. Our regulated utilities will remain our
core business and as such will generate a steady and reliable earnings and cash flow
stream. These regulated utilities are a good operational fit and the combined regulated
business will have greater market and regulatory diversity from a four state service
area. |
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The
combined company will be better positioned to service customers. We will maintain a focus
on operational excellence and a constructive regulatory approach and we already have
significant identified opportunities to grow our rate base through capital investment. |
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At
the same time the stability of our regulated businesses will give us the ability to
continue expanding prudently in complementary, non-regulated energy marketing services.
We will also continue to evaluate our other assets including our oil and natural gas
production and non-regulated power investments as part of our active asset management
strategy. |
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Prior
to closing a transition team consisting of members of both companies will carefully
evaluate strategic options for these businesses for the combined board to consider in
order to maximize shareholder value and maintain a strong credit profile for the combined
company. |
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From
a financial perspective this transition is attractive for both companiesshareholders.
We project that it will be earnings accretive to shareholders in 2008 excluding residual
transition costs once the companies have been integrated and our regulatory plans have
been executed. |
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We
already have $80 million in identified potential annual synergies about $72
million in our regulated businesses and another $8 million in our non-regulated
businesses. These synergies will be achieved over time and it is expected that the
one-time cost to obtain these synergies will be approximately $200 million. |
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Following
the closing, current WPS Resources shareholders will benefit from a 16.8% dividend
increase based on our current dividend. Peoples Energy shareholders will maintain about
the same level of dividend income. The combined company will be committed to maintaining
a strong balance sheet and credit profile. Our intent is to create a credit profile that
maintains WPS Resources current rating. This will support ongoing strategic
initiatives and growth. |
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Finally
the combined company will have a larger equity market capitalization with increased
market liquidity. This should enhance our ability to raise equity when needed. Now Ill
turn the call over to my friend and colleague Tom Patrick who will discuss some of the
key metrics of the combined company. Tom? |
Tom Patrick: |
Thanks
Larry. We at Peoples Energy are excited about this transaction and believe this is a
win-win for the shareholders of both companies. Both of our companies have for some time
publicly expressed the desire to build scale so as to better compete in a consolidating
industry. At Peoples Energy we think we have found an ideal partner in WPS whom we have
admired for some time for their success in building value for their shareholders through
both their regulated and non-regulated businesses. |
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The
terms of this deal are attractive to both companies shareholders. The earnings from
the combined company will come predominantly from regulated utility operations which lend
stability to earnings and cash flows. In addition synergies will be derived from both
regulated and non-regulated sources. |
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Turning
to slide 5, the combined company will be a leading regional energy company. On the
regulated side we will have about 1,637,000 natural gas customers and about 477,000
electric customers. Total assets will be about $9.2 billion. The combined companys
market cap will be an estimated $3.6 billion. And it will have an enterprise value of
around $6.1 billion. |
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Combined
adjusted historical EBITDA for the 12 months ending March 31, 2006 would have been
approximately $675 million. On a pro forma basis regulated operations would have
accounted for 60% of this combined adjusted historical EBITDA. Larry, back to you. |
Larry Weyers: |
Thanks
Tom. Slide 6 summarizes the key terms of the transaction. Under the definitive merger
agreement which was unanimously approved by both companies boards of directors,
each common share of Peoples Energy outstanding immediately prior to the merger will be
converted into .825 shares of WPS Resources common stock. |
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As
of Wednesday, July 5, 2006 closing prices prior to the publication of an article in the
Wall Street Journal, this would result in an approximate value of $41.39 per share for
Peoples Energy stock. This represents a premium to Peoples Energys shareholders of
approximately 14.2% based on the 20 trading day average closing prices for Peoples Energy
ending July 5, 2006 and approximately 15% based on the closing price for Peoples Energy
on July 5, 2006. |
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Upon
consummation of a merger WPS Resources shareholders will own approximately 57.6% of the
combined company and Peoples Energy shareholders will own approximately 42.4%. After
closing it is intended that the dividend of the combined company will be 66 cents per
quarter. |
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I
will serve as President and CEO of the combined company. My colleague and friend Tom
Patrick, Chairman, President, and CEO of Peoples Energy announced earlier this year his
intention to retire. Jim Boris, the current lead director for Peoples Energy, will serve
as non-executive Chairman of the Board. |
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The
Board of Directors will have an executive committee comprised of myself and Bob
Gallagher, lead director from WPSs board, and Jim Boris and Keith Bailey from the
Peoples board. The majority of the combined companys board members will come from
WPS Resources. Other key members of the combined companys management team will be
determined later. |
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The
combined holding company headquarters will be located in Chicago, Illinois while the
regulated operating units will retain their existing headquarters. The non-regulated
energy business, marketing businesses of the combined company will be headquartered in
Green Bay, Wisconsin. Finally we expect the transaction will close by the end of the
first quarter of 2007 assuming all regulatory and shareholder approvals have been
obtained by that time. |
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Let
me take you through the benefits to shareholders and other key stakeholders in a little
more detail. And I would direct your attention to slide 8. |
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The
combined companys shareholders will benefit from six main sources of value. First
our regulated operations will be larger and we will have greater regulatory diversity. We
will have constructive and proactive dialog with regulators. In addition service
territories stretching across four states will provide diversity in terms of the markets
served. |
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Second,
there are significant capital investment opportunities to grow our rate base.
Construction of (Westin Four) is expected to be completed in 2008. Through March 31, 2006
capital expenditures on this project since its inception are $317 million. Total capital
expenditures by the end of the project will be $549 million. |
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We
also see opportunities to accelerate Peoples Energy corporations infrastructure
modernization capital program in Illinois with the right regulatory framework. |
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Third,
our 33% stake in American Transmission Company provides regulated earnings growth. As you
know there has been good regulatory support from the federal Energy Regulatory Commission
and the state commissioners for expansion and improvement of the transmission system in
the upper Midwest and American Transmission Company will continue to benefit from that
expansion. |
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Our
non-regulated energy marketing businesses are also complementary and provide a strong
growth platform giving us a larger and more diversified presence in attractive markets.
We see continued growth for them within a robust and disciplined risk management
framework. |
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We
will also continue our rigorous asset management strategy. As you know both companies
announced recent divestitures, (Sunbury) and Guardian Pipeline for WPS Resources and the
power generation assets of Peoples Energy. This asset review will extend to Peoples Energys
oil and natural gas production operation as well as WPS Resourcesongoing review of
its non-regulated power generation assets. |
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Finally
we see the potential opportunity to realize approximately $80 million per year in pre-tax
synergy savings to be achieved over time about $72 million on the regulatory side
and about $8 million on the non-regulated side at a one-time cost of approximately $200
million. |
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Turning
to slide 9, our employees and our service area communities are also key stakeholders in
this transaction. We will continue striving to enhance the customer experience in all of
our businesses and we believe consumers will benefit from the sharing of best practices
and our strong commitment to service quality. In fact WPS Resources has a history of
serving its customers well and being recognized for doing so. |
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One
example is that the 2005 J.D. Power and Associates electric and natural gas customer
satisfaction studies indicated that Wisconsin Public Service achieved an overall
satisfaction ranking within the Midwest of 4th out of 19 utilities in the electric study
and 5th out of 20 utilities in the natural gas study. |
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J.D.
Power and Associates classified Wisconsin Public Service
Corporation, WPSs electric and natural gas utility, as an
all-time best residential electric performer because we ranked in the
top quartile nationally over a seven year period, an indication of
Wisconsin Public Services strong record of performance. |
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A
second example is that the 2005 (Massey OGail) customer satisfaction survey listed
WPS Energy Services, thats WPS Resources non-regulated energy marketing
subsidiary, as 4th out of 38 in overall customer satisfaction. Since first appearing in
the survey in 1999 WPS Energy Services customers have consistently rated it in the top
ten in (Massey OGail)s customer satisfaction rating. |
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A
new feature of the 2005 (Massey OGail) study, the customer value index score,
combines price and customer satisfaction rankings into a single rating of the company.
WPS Energy Services finished second in the customer value index. |
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In
2006 WPS Resources was named Fortunes most admired company in the energy industry
and Forbes best managed utility company in America. And we will strive to maintain
and further enhance that reputation going forward. In addition, Peoples Energy has a 150
year tradition of reliable service and innovation in the Chicago area and we hope to
build on that tradition. |
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Recognizing
that talented and dedicated and professional employees are the key to success in any
business, we will also continue to emphasize strong employee relations. The combined
company will provide greater opportunities for our employees by virtue not only of our
larger service area and diverse operations but also our larger growth platform and our
improved ability to take advantage of strategic opportunities. |
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Finally
we will maintain our commitment to improving the communities in which we serve. And the
combined company will maintain the strong civic community and philanthropic presence that
both companies have now. |
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Slide
10 provides a summary of our regulated businesses which will continue to provide the
combined company with stable organic earnings growth. Our utility service territories are
attractive and vibrant with diverse economies and healthy market conditions. |
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We
also will focus our capital investment program on regulated generation and distribution
operations that will grow rate base while maintaining competitive utility rates for our
customers. We will share core values across our organizations and will work hard to have
a constructive regulatory approach that is so critical to long term success. |
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Once
we have combined the businesses we will also see the potential for synergies by sharing
the best practices and eliminating redundant and overlapping functions. Finally our
strong balance sheet will enable us to continue to maintain strong credit ratings and
ready access to the capital markets. |
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Slide
11 summarizes our wholesale and retail energy marketing businesses which are also very
complementary. We see strategic opportunities to grow in our service current
service areas by continuing our focus on retail and wholesale customers as well as by
expanding into new territories. |
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The
combination of our two businesses leverages our expertise, reputation, and assets and
expands their geographic reach. For example well be a strong presence when the
Illinois electric market opens in 2007. Both of our organizations take a disciplined
approach to risk management which has been ingrained over the years in the culture of our
companies. |
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Ill
now turn this over to Tom who will discuss Peoples oil and natural gas production
business and the financial highlights and business mix for the new company. Tom? |
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Tom Patrick: |
Okay
thanks Larry. On slide 12 we have summarized Peoples Energys oil and natural gas
production business which has been a significant source of growth in earnings for us in
recent years. Those assets include approximately 235 billion cubic feet of proven
reserves on a pro forma basis as well as a significant amount of probable reserves and a
large inventory of drilling opportunities. |
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Slide
14, the transaction is projected to be accretive to shareholders in 2008 excluding
residual transition costs once the companies have been integrated and regulatory plans
have been executed. The combined company will offer a strong and sustainable dividend
which Larry will have more comment on in a minute. |
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The
combined company will also remain committed to credit quality and balance sheet strength.
Our objectives are to maintain WPS Resources strong investment grade rating and to
use our combined balance sheet and financial profile to support our growth. |
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Slide
15 illustrates the pro forma business mix. As shown, regulated utility EBITDA represented
about 60% of total combined results on a 12 months ended March 31, 2006 basis. Now Ill
turn the call back to Larry to discuss synergies and the dividend. |
Larry Weyers: |
Slide
16 provides details relating to estimated annual synergies. The combined company
estimates steady state synergies of approximately $80 million. We see an opportunity for
savings from corporate overhead and redundancies such as corporate staff, IT integration,
administrative and public company costs, facilities, and other. |
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We
have an aggressive timeline for implementation and execution. Our transition teams will
be focused on delivering operational excellence. In addition the combined company will
continue to work towards long term implementation of best practices. |
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One-time
costs to achieve are expected to be about $200 million for such things as IT integration
and upgrades, severance and relocation, and other fees and expenses. Our synergy
estimates are based upon an analysis prepared with the assistance of (Booze Allen
Hamilton), a nationally recognized consulting firm with a great deal of expertise. |
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Turning
to slide 17, a strong dividend has always been important to the shareholders of both
companies. WPS Resources has been increasing its dividend for 47 consecutive years while
still maintaining strong credit rating. Peoples Energy also has a long tradition of
maintaining a strong and growing dividend. We intend to continue this tradition in the
years ahead. |
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After
closing it is intended that the dividend of the combined company will be 66 cents per
quarter. This expected combined company dividend will represent a 16.8% increase to the
current quarterly dividend rate of WPS Resources shareholders and after taking into
account the exchange ratio a continuation of the annual dividend income stream for
Peoples Energy shareholders. The combined companys payout ratio will be in line
with its peers and we will target an average annual payout ratio of 60% to 65%. |
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Let
me now turn the call back to Tom to discuss our execution plans and regulatory steps that
need to take place to complete this transaction. |
Tom Patrick: |
The
transaction timeline is laid out on slide 19. During the third quarter we anticipate
filing our joint proxy statement and regulatory filings. Developing the detailed
transition implementation plan and obtaining the needed approvals will take us through
the end of the year and we anticipate holding shareholder meetings for each company
during the last calendar quarter of this year. |
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While
there is some chance we could receive the regulatory approvals in December we believe
January or February is more likely. We will close very soon after we receive approvals. |
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In
terms of regulatory milestones, on slide 20 as I noted earlier, we plan to file for
regulatory approval in Illinois in August and will seek expedited review. Our filing will
include a request for a regulatory mechanism that will facilitate the acceleration of
planned infrastructure modernization in the city of Chicago. |
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Peoples
Gas and North Shore Gas for some time have been discussing the need for rate relief and
their plans to make rate case filings with the Illinois Commerce Commission. These
filings will be delayed however to allow for a clear focus by all parties on the merger
filing. As the merger process proceeds Peoples will continue to discuss and evaluate when
the best timing for these rate filings will be. |
Larry Weyers: |
Wisconsin
Public Service Corporation filed its general retail rate case in Wisconsin on March 31.
Hearings have been scheduled for September and we anticipate a decision in December. The
new rates would become effective next January. |
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In
summary, I direct your attention to slide 22. The combination of WPS Resources and
Peoples Energy creates value for all stakeholders. It will create a regional energy
leader that is focused on customer excellence and we continue to grow and enhance our
core regulated utility operations and our non-regulated energy marketing business. |
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In
addition we will continue to implement our asset management strategy while we maintain
strong credit quality and focus on our ultimate goals creating long-term value for
shareholders and benefits for all stakeholders. We will now open the call for questions. |
Operator: |
Thank
you. If you would like to ask a question at this time simply press Star 1 on your phone.
If you would like to cancel your question at any time please press Star 2. Once again thats
Star 1 if you have a question or comment and Star 2 to cancel. One moment please for our
first question. |
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Once
again, thats Star 1 if you have a question and Star 2 to cancel. One moment please.
Once again thats Star 1 if you have a question and Star 2 to cancel. Once again thats
Star 1 if you have a question. Thank you. And our first question is from (Kathleen
Vuchetich). |
(Kathleen Vuchetich): |
Good
morning. |
Larry Weyers: |
Good
morning (Kathleen). |
(Kathleen Vuchetich): |
I
was wondering if I could ask about the dividend. Its great news about increasing
the dividend for WPS shareholders but I was wondering what payout ratio you think this
will put the dividend at post-merger and whether or not there will be room for to
keep maintain your policy of annual dividend increases thereafter or if there will
have to be a couple of years of pause to catch up with the payout ratio. |
Joe OLeary: |
(Kathleen) this is Joe OLeary. |
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(Kathleen Vuchetich): |
Hi
Joe. |
Joe OLeary: |
Hi. We anticipate that the combined company will have a payout target ratio for
payout at around 60% to 65% and we think that provides enough room for us to keep our
tradition of dividend increases going. |
(Kathleen Vuchetich): |
Great.
A second question, you guys talked about the comment was made this morning that
you would invest in Peoples infrastructure under the right regulatory framework. Can you
clarify that a little bit? Have you already spoken with the regulators? What would
constitute a proper regulatory framework? |
Larry Weyers: |
Well
we havent actually discussed this with the ICC at this point but we would
anticipate possibly increasing the amount of investment that Peoples has been making in
their infrastructure modernization. We believe we could do that but obviously we would
need the right regulatory framework in order to do that. So thats kind of what were
going to propose is an increase in that infrastructure investment and hopefully positive
regulatory treatment. |
(Kathleen Vuchetich): |
Great.
And final question, does this eliminate the plans for an equity offering for WPS for the
remainder of the year? |
Joe OLeary: |
(Kathleen) this is Joe. Obviously with this transaction taking place and us wanting to
have a transition team that will take a look at asset management strategy, we would like
to try to get that sorted out before we embark upon any more equity issuances at
this particular point in time. |
(Kathleen Vuchetich): |
Great,
thank you so much and good luck with this. |
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Joe OLeary: |
Thank
you very much. |
Larry Weyers: |
Thank
you (Kathleen). |
Operator: |
Thank
you. Our next question is from (Dave Parker), Robert W. Baird. |
(Dave Parker): |
Congratulations,
I wish you the best on the merger approval process. |
Larry Weyers: |
Hey
thank you (David). |
(Dave Parker): |
Hey
a couple of questions $80 million in annual synergy savings. I guess my gut
reaction is sounds high or it seems to is that a do you think are
you comfortable? Is that an aggressive number or maybe if you could give us a little more
color on that. |
Tom Patrick: |
Well
I can start. This is Tom. Actually based on the analysis that was done by (Booze Allen) were
actually somewhat below average in terms of percentages of both the non-fuel O&M
savings and position reductions so that it looks like these and that takes into
account the fact that we do have dispersed service territories. So we feel pretty
comfortable about the ability to achieve these synergies. |
(Dave Parker): |
Is
that - I'm sorry, go ahead. |
Larry Weyers: |
We
expect about 23% of that to come from corporate and administrative programs, about 39%
from staffing coordination, and then the rest of it from things like IT procurement
change, natural gas supply, and our non-regulated entities. |
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(Dave Parker): |
Is
it that $80 million annual number, how long does it take to achieve that number? |
Joe O'Leary: |
It
will probably get to a steady state $80 million in the third year. Well have
savings prior to that but probably get to that steady state around, you know, midpoint to
the second year, the third year. |
(Dave Parker): |
Okay,
thank you for that. And just a general question just about what the corporation will look like. Is this going to be a new corporation? I assume
moving to Chicago may make a I believe WPS is a Wisconsin corporation. What are
the changes legally that have to go on there? |
Larry Weyers: |
Well
it is actually no legal changes to go on. The Wisconsin Holding Company Act does
not require this holding company to be headquartered in Wisconsin and so the holding
company will be headquartered down here. All of our subsidiaries including Wisconsin
Public Service Corporation and the unregulated entities will be headquartered in Green
Bay and the rest of the headquarters locations for the two utility subsidiaries down here
as well as the ones in Michigan and Minnesota will stay where they are. |
(Dave Parker): |
Okay.
Could you refresh my memory on just the Illinois statutes on the timing that where they
would legally have to address the merger application? I know you talked about potentially
getting an expedited review process. |
Tom Patrick: |
Yeah
this is Tom Patrick. The time that is allowed for review of a merger application is the
same as the time allowed for a rate case, 11 months after filing. However there has been
a history in the past decade of the commission functioning on a much more accelerated
basis and we think that with the appropriate applications and the right attention to
regulatory concerns that we can manage that in a much more reasonable time period. |
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(Dave Parker): |
All
right, great. Thanks for your answers and again congratulations. |
Larry Weyers: |
Thank
you (David). |
Larry Weyers: |
Thanks
for your interest. |
Operator: |
Thank
you. Our next question is from (Shelby Tucker) of Banc of America Securities. |
(Shelby Tucker): |
Just
a couple of questions. One for Tom, could you give me a little more detail as to where
you are in terms of earnings for Peoples and for North Shore? And then for Joe, there
seems to be a pretty wide spread credit ratings between WPS and Peoples. And just could
you address how youre going to make sure you maintain your financial strength? And
have you talked to the rating agencies? Thank you. |
Tom Patrick: |
On
the earnings, Tom Nardi will take that. |
Tom Nardi: |
Yeah
(Shelby), what was your question about Peoples and North Shore? |
(Shelby Tucker): |
Basically
whats your respective ROE at this point or at least - I guess a sense of... |
Tom Nardi: |
Yeah
I think we disclosed in our last call that our regulated businesses would earn a
regulated ROE in the 7% range. |
Tom Nardi: |
Normalized,
normalized for weather. |
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(Shelby Tucker): |
And
how are you allowed at this point? I just apologize, I havent been following
Peoples. |
Tom Nardi: |
Our
last we havent been in for a rate case in 11 years. The last allowed return
was 11.1% at Peoples. |
(Shelby Tucker): |
Okay
thank you. |
Joe OLeary: |
And
(Shelby) you had a question about the credit rating? |
(Shelby Tucker): |
Right, just a sense of how youre going to bridge the gap. |
Joe OLeary: |
You
know, we think part of that is the asset management strategy, looking into that and
finding ways to run the business in such a way that we can obtain the risk profile that
enables us to maintain the WPS Resources Corporation existing credit rating. So we will
work closely with the rating agencies to help them understand what it is we are planning
on doing as a combined company to get them comfortable with that. |
(Shelby Tucker): |
And
have you had any initial discussions already? |
Joe OLeary: |
Weve
had some initial discussions. |
(Shelby Tucker): |
Okay,
thank you. |
Larry Weyers: |
Thank
you (Shelby). |
Operator: |
Thank
you. Our next question is from (Doug Fisher) of A.G. Edwards. |
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(Doug Fisher): |
Good
morning. |
Larry Weyers: |
Good
morning (Doug). |
Larry Weyers: |
Thanks
for being with us. |
(Doug Fisher): |
Glad
to be with you. Any while you may not want to get into particulars, maybe you can
talk conceptually about how you would deal with the regulated savings and how you would
share those to any degree with customers and how that might dovetail with Peoples rate
filings. And then I have a follow-up. |
Joe OLeary: |
(Doug)
this is Joe. I think in terms of the sharing well address that more when we do our
application. But I think if you look at other recent transactions that have taken place
and commissions have if you assume kind of an equitable benchmark of a 50/50
sharing, you know, in terms of trying to estimate this going forward for your purposes
that might be something that you could use as a benchmark. |
(Doug Fisher): |
And
I assume that something in that range is what you used in coming to your comment about
accretion? |
Joe OLeary |
Well
obviously yeah. We looked at multiple ranges and the results of looking through those
different analyses tell us that, you know, we think we can achieve the accretion. |
(Doug Fisher): |
Is
it your expectation that retention of the savings would you would ask for
something permanent or would that be for a period of say five years as is often the case? |
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Joe OLeary: |
(Doug) I think well have more to say about that later as we file the application. |
(Doug Fisher): |
Okay
and maybe you can elaborate a little bit at how serious you are about either retaining or
selling the E&P business and how you would protect yourself while this deal is
pending against any potential decline in the price of natural gas from the forward curve. |
Larry Weyers: |
(Doug)
this is Larry. The E&P business has been a good business for Peoples contributing to
their asset and earnings growth and its not a business that WPS Resources knows a
lot about. We want to spend the transition time getting more familiar with that business.
I think weve done a good job on the due diligence but obviously getting to know it
in more detail will be good. |
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Meanwhile
of course we want the business to stay on plan and continue to build earnings and value.
And this business will, just like all of our businesses, are always subject to review to
make sure that were its still a good earning asset for us. |
(Doug Fisher): |
And
then lastly can you provide any color as to the range of magnitude of earnings accretion
in 08? |
Joe OLeary: |
(Doug)
this is Joe. You know, when you talk about earnings accretion youre talking about
it from a perspective of two different companies. And at this time were not we
dont were not prepared to go into that level of detail. |
(Doug Fisher): |
Okay
thank you. |
Larry Weyers: |
Thank
you (Doug). |
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Operator: |
Thank
you. And our next question is from (David Dickens) of Deep Haven Capital Management. |
(David Thickens): |
Good
morning. |
Larry Weyers: |
Good
morning (David). |
(David Thickens): |
How
are you? A couple of questions Larry. I read this morning that the transaction is
expected to be accretive in 2008 to WPS earnings per share. Is that something that you
have said or is that just something that the analysts have assumed? |
Joe OLeary: |
(David) this is Joe OLeary. I think weve stated that and if you go back in the
script for todays call youll see that we did state it in there that we expect
it to be accretive for shareholders and it would be accretive for both current WPS
shareholders as well as for Peoples Energy shareholders. |
(David Thickens): |
Okay
can you - thanks. I just - I had trouble pulling the presentation up off the web. |
Joe OLeary: |
Oh
sorry, okay. |
(David Thickens): |
Can
you tell me what is assumed in the regulatory outcomes for the Peoples case and also what
is assumed on the E&P side of Peoples to get to that accretion number? |
Joe OLeary: |
(David) this is Joe. Given the fact that youre asking for hypotheticals relative to
what would happen with the upcoming regulatory events, were not prepared to go into
that kind of detail. |
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(David Thickens): |
But,
I mean, youve had to make some kind of assumptions, I mean, we have a utility that
has been historically under earning and an E&P business thats been under
performing. I guess can you put some kind of framework? Or maybe not, you know, explicit
details but put some kind of framework because clearly youre assuming something
other than the status quo from a regulatory perspective. |
Larry Weyers: |
(David)
this is Larry. You know, one of the things that Peoples hasnt been in for a
rate case for a long time. And what weve basically assumed is that we will receive
appropriate regulatory treatment going forward. Weve had a good history of working
proactively with regulators and we expect to build that relationship in Illinois and get
reasonable treatment. Those are basically the assumptions without going into numbers
which were not prepared to do today as to what we think the outcome might be. |
(David Thickens): |
Okay
and can you talk a little bit about the E&P, the assumptions on the E&P side at
least in similar broad terms? |
Larry Weyers: |
Well
right now were just assuming that the E&P business will continue to generate
profits and continue to grow as it has. We will just, you know, if theres any
change in that then we would modify the strategy going forward. |
(David Thickens): |
Are
you using forward strip pricing or taking some other view on commodity prices that youre
willing to share? |
Tom Patrick: |
This
is Tom Patrick. I mean, we are assuming that the business goes forward per plan and in
our separate, you know, disclosures and reports we have talked about that. The business
over this next, you know, interim period doesnt anticipate earnings growth as some
of the hedges that its had in place roll off. So notwithstanding some dip in current
prices, were feeling fine about the business, not concerned about the transition
period. |
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Larry Weyers: |
And
(David) we have actually had several experts come in and provide us with some consulting
service and valuations of that business and weve gotten comfortable with the advice
that we have received. |
(David Thickens): |
Okay,
thank you much. |
Operator: |
Thank
you. Our next question is from (Jim Harmon) of Lehman Brothers. |
(Jim Harmon): |
Hey
good morning. |
Larry Weyers: |
Good
morning (Jim). |
(Jim Harmon): |
I
had two questions, one on the Peoples side. Does this merger do anything with respect to
the timing of your divestiture of the power assets? Are they on
hold? Are you going to go as planned? |
Tom Patrick: |
That
is still underway. Those divestitures were, you know, relatively far along prior to our
reaching this agreement and the plan is to go forward with those. |
(Jim Harmon): |
Okay
and I think okay then on the second question, you have identified $72 million of
merger synergies at the regulated entity. And meanwhile on the Peoples side I think the
last identified rate case number you were looking to file was about $115 million. I
understand youre not prepared to go into any detail per se but do you think the
regulators will view each separately? |
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Tom Patrick: |
This
is Tom. Im just going to (essay) the point that the in the past the ICC has
been able to make that kind of distinction. A merger transaction is a merger transaction.
They will look at it in light of the criteria that applies to that and we will be able to
show I think a good benefit for our customers as a result of this combination. |
|
We
heard earlier today about the strong customer service focus at WPS and the ability to
incorporate those kind of best practices is going to bode well for our customers. And we
also heard about their commitment to investing in service rather in accelerated
system improvement. So from the perspective of the merger which basically has the
criteria that says that there shall be no harm to consumers, that would be, you know, we
think that would be treated very positively. |
|
In
terms of whatever requirement there will be residually for rate relief, even talking
about that $115 million number which of course would require a completely fresh look,
that represented no more than about a 4% or 5% increase in rates for customers. So that
was not a draconian increase in the first place. |
(Jim Harmon): |
Okay
thank you. |
Operator: |
Thank
you. Our next question is from (Steve Gambuzza) of Long Bow Capital. |
(Steve Gambuzza): |
Good
morning and congratulations. |
Larry Weyers: |
Thank
you (Steve). |
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(Steve Gambuzza): |
I
was just wondering if this might have any impact on your current pending rate case in
Wisconsin in terms of, you know, the allocations of common cost, etc. |
Larry Weyers: |
No,
this shouldnt have any impact on the rate case in Wisconsin. There will probably be
some of the synergy savings that are attributed to the Wisconsin customers eventually but
thats a ways down the road. The rate case that were filing today or have
filed I believe just covers 2007 and potentially 2008. |
(Steve Gambuzza): |
Great,
thank you very much. |
Operator: |
Thank
you. Our next question is from (Ashar Khan) of SAC. |
(Ashar Khan): |
Good
morning and congratulations. |
Larry Weyers: |
Thank
you (Ashar). |
(Ashar Khan): |
Larry
I joined the call late. I dont know if this question has been answered. But if I
was looking at the slides you said that the new entity would have a payout ratio between
60% to 65%, correct? |
Larry Weyers: |
Yeah
thats our target longer term and we think we can get there relatively quickly. |
(Ashar Khan): |
So
Larry, just going from that, $2.64 dividend, 60% payout would get you to nearly like $4.39,
$4.40 in earnings. So Im looking at that as 2008 being the first year so are we
talking in those ballpark of earnings levels? Is that a fair assumption? |
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Joe OLeary: |
(Ashar) this is Joe OLeary and based on a combined company the long-term target is
to get to a 60% to 65% range. Given the number of variables that have to be dealt with in
a transaction this size and the timing of the costs to be incurred, you know, well
have to work our way towards that payout. |
|
So
I think if I heard you right you were wondering if an assumption of an immediate payout
range would take place right after the transaction, I would say that its more of a
target that were striving to attain over the period of a few years. |
(Ashar Khan): |
A
few years starting when? |
Joe OLeary: |
Well once we get things closed. And at this point given the 11 month window possibly, that
would be the longest period, you could do the count it out from there. Hopefully we, hopefully,
we would be able to get the regulators to consider
an approval sooner than that and of course that would move the date up a little bit. |
(Ashar Khan): |
So
Joe, at least by 2009 you should be at least at that level right? Is that a fair
assumption? |
Larry Weyers: |
I
think well be at steady state at least by 2009 and possibly earlier. |
(Ashar Khan): |
Okay,
thats what I wanted to know. Thank you sir. |
Operator: |
Thank
you. And our next question is from (Andrew Levy) of (Bear Wagner). Mr. (Levy), and your
line is open sir. |
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(Andrew Levy): |
I
said I was all set, thank you very much. |
Operator: |
Thank
you. And our next question is from (Paul Patterson) of (Glenrock) Associates. |
(Paul Patterson): |
How
are you? |
(Paul Patterson): |
I
just wanted to Im sorry if I missed this. What was the goodwill associated
with the transaction? I didnt see that, Im sorry. |
JoeOLeary: |
This is Joe OLeary. Well have more information on goodwill as we get the
accounting squared away for this on a go forward basis and there will be more information
available in our S-4 filing that will take place during this quarter. |
(Paul Patterson): |
Okay
so you cant give us a ballpark or anything that youre looking at? |
Joe OLeary: |
Yeah at this point, you know, I think what well do is just wait and deal with that
in the S-4. |
(Paul Patterson): |
Okay,
the $200 million cost to achieve, its a one-time you say in the press release. Is
that going to happen in 2007? Is that when we should expect that to come out? |
Joe OLeary: |
A majority of this is Joe. A majority of that is expected to take place within the
first year after the deal is closed. In terms of, you know, which reporting year it ends
up with again is somewhat contingent upon when we get the approval and close the deal.
But, you know, certain costs of course could be incurred a little sooner. We expect that
within about a one year period a majority of those costs would be incurred. |
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(Paul Patterson): |
Okay
and then if I understood (Dave) your answer to (Dave)s question, you expect
to be around that $80 million synergy savings around the 2008 timeframe too, right? Is
that right? So they basically happen the same year? |
JoeOLeary: |
That will be probably be, you know, later 2008, 2009 timeframe assuming that we get
regulatory approval and are allowed to close earlier in 2007. |
(Paul Patterson): |
Okay
and if it happens in the first quarter then it would be closer to 2009, if it happens in
the first quarter of 2007? Am I understanding that correct? |
(Paul Patterson): |
Okay,
thanks a lot guys. |
Operator: |
Thank
you. And our next question is from (Melissa Copley) of (Copley) Advisors. |
Larry Weyers: |
Were
not receiving a question here. |
Operator: |
Once
again? Ms. (Copley), and youre now online. |
Joe O'Leary: |
There
you are, now we can hear you. |
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Larry Weyers: |
We
can hear you now. |
(Melissa Copley): |
Oh
you can hear me, all right. Well thank you for hosting the call today. |
Larry Weyers: |
Thank
you for being with us. |
(Melissa Copley): |
Congratulations.
My question relates to real estate. I'm curious about the $80 million in savings. Can you
share what percentage of that savings or synergies will be
attributed to real estate? |
Joe O'Leary: |
I
dont think weve got it broken down into that level of detail but it would
probably be somewhere, you know, youd probably find it buried in the corporate and
administrative programs, somewhere down in that area. And right now thats
contemplated to be 23% but I dont think real estate is going to be a significant
portion of that. |
(Melissa Copley): |
Okay
and is there a strategic plan for real estate? Is there an overall philosophy about how
youre going to handle the combination? |
Larry Weyers: |
Well
WPS will continue with our real estate program which is through our asset management
program were simply trying to get rid of real estate or change ownership of real
estate that we no longer need or wont need in the future. So that will continue. |
|
We
expect the majority of that effort to be completed I think were using 2008 or 2009
now. Some of it has been delayed because of regulatory processes. But we dont
anticipate that theres going to be a huge amount of real estate synergies in this
transaction. |
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(Melissa Copley): |
Okay
and last question is real estate planning and implementation expected to be handled on a
consolidated basis after the merger or will it be handled separately out of Chicago and
Wisconsin? |
Larry Weyers: |
I
believe that the transition team that was going to be put in place which will consist of
representatives from both companies will make decisions like that going forward. So I
really we havent made decisions of that level of detail yet. |
(Melissa Copley): |
Okay
thank you so much and good luck. |
Operator: |
Thank
you. Our next question is from (Steven Rountos) of Talon Capital. |
(Steven Rountos): |
Hi,
good morning. |
Men: |
Good
morning (Steven). How are you doing? |
(Steven Rountos): |
Good,
a couple of clarification questions. Of the $72 million of regulatory cost savings, how
much of those are attributable to the Peoples gas operations or the Peoples operations? |
JoeOLeary: |
This is Joe, (Steven). We havent gotten down to that level of detail. We did hire
or with the assistance of (Booze Allen Hamilton) we did do an overall study of what
could be achieved in a merger, a typical merger of this size and weve come up with a
rather broad based estimate. In terms of the execution and the implementation necessary to
achieve those results, that is part of the focus of the transition team that Larry spoke
of. |
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(Steven Rountos): |
Okay,
it sounded like from Larrys comment though that some of them are attributable to
WPS. |
Tom Nardi: |
This
is Tom Nardi. The state-by-state analysis has not been completely done. That will be done
before we file the merger application but theres more work to do to allocate those
synergies among the four states and four jurisdictions. |
(Steven Rountos): |
Okay,
a related question on the $200 million of cost to achieve, how much of that is
recoverable in a regulatory framework? |
Larry Weyers: |
Well
Im not sure we know the answer to that until we approach the regulators and ask for
recovery of that. But obviously if youre spending money to capture synergies that
the rate payers are going to experience in future years, we believe thats an
expenditure that should be covered by those that are going to benefit from the results.
So we dont know exactly how the regulators will treat the cost to achieve at this
point but we believe its a legitimate cost of getting us those synergies. |
(Steven Rountos): |
Got
it. Of the the regulatory timeframe around the rate case for Peoples again, youre
looking to file a rate case once you receive regulatory approval from the ICC for the
transaction? |
Joe O'Leary: |
Once
again I dont believe we have actually made any decisions regarding our rates, when
rate cases will actually be filed. Obviously it will be a different schedule than what it
would be if Peoples were stand-alone. |
(Steven Rountos): |
Okay,
last question around the leverage and I think there were some questions about the credit
rating agencies. Do you have a targeted debt to cap or a targeted FFO to debt level post
the transaction? And what do you look like pro forma on a leverage basis? |
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Joe OLeary: |
(Steven) this is Joe. You know, given that were striving to maintain the credit
rating that WPS Resources currently has, you can expect to see some similarities with
regard to the capital structure. Of course, you know, we will be looking at the variations
of what we can do with that capital structure. |
|
I
know I mentioned in our last earnings conference call that one of the things that we had
given consideration to is a possible use of hybrid debt that would help us with regards
to maintaining the credit ratings that we do have so thats just another variable to
throw in there. So its kind of hard to give you a projection of where we think were
going to be. |
|
But
we are striving to get to the credit rating that WPS Resources currently holds and we
will use we will be having further talks with the rating agencies to explain more
details about this and well consult with them to see how we can achieve that. |
(Steven Rountos): |
Given
the level, I know that you were going to evaluate your future equity needs in light of
this acquisition and in light of the divestiture program that you might enter into. But
if you just look at it on a stock per stock basis youre obviously on a debt to cap
from a debt to cap perspective youre actually delevering and your equity
ratio goes to 56% or even above that. |
|
You
know, I think that from a shareholder standpoint Im just curious what if
there are any thoughts around leverage of the company and kind of right sizing the
balance sheet or normalizing the balance sheet. |
Joe OLeary: |
I think weve talked in the past, typically weve tried to be somewhere around,
you know, per equity being somewhere, you know, between 50%, 55% equity and, you know, we
do have some other things relative to asset management that need to be completed that
could have an impact on that. Because Im guessing what youre trying to also
understand is what might happen with regards to future equity issuances. |
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|
So
clearly those types of asset management strategies need to be taken into consideration
before we could give you any further information. |
Larry Weyers: |
I
would say that we will definitely right size the balance sheet consistent with the credit
ratings that we desire. |
(Steven Rountos): |
I
guess my question was would you do it the other way where if you were overequitized would
you look at buying back stock? |
Larry Weyers: |
If
we were overequitized I think we would do something to right size that balance sheet. |
(Steven Rountos): |
Okay
great, thanks guys. |
Operator: |
Thank
you. Our next question is from (Taren Miller) of USB. |
(Taren Miller): |
Good
morning. I was wondering if you could discuss the actual legal corporate structure? Is
Peoples Energy going to be a subsidiary under WPS or does Peoples Energy get assumed by
WPS Resources? |
Tom Patrick: |
Yeah,
Peoples Energy will become a subsidiary of WPS. Thats the end result. And then well
decide whether it still makes sense for that intermediate holding company to stay in
place or not. But that will be the structure post-merger. |
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(Taren Miller): |
Okay
so the targeted rating that youre talking about is at the ultimate holding company,
WPS Resources, at maintaining the (single A)? |
Joe O'Leary: |
Thats
correct. |
(Taren Miller): |
Okay,
thank you very much. |
Man: |
We
would certainly want to make sure that were trying to maintain the good credit ratings
that all the utilities have. |
Coordinator: |
Thank
you. Our next question is from (Louis Starks) of Chesapeake Partners. |
(Louis Starks): |
Hi,
just to try and get a little bit more clarity on the Peoples rate case, would you expect,
you know, in the end that the rate case will be filed and will be a part of the merger
review? Or is it possible that, you know, it is filed after the ITC does approve the
transaction? |
Tom Patrick: |
Well
its - this is Tom. It will not be filed contemporaneously with the merger application. |
Tom Patrick: |
The
merger application takes precedence here. |
Tom Patrick: |
And
what we do and how we handle the rate case in terms of its timing subsequent to that will
depend on the progress that we make with the regulators here in understanding the
transaction and taking the merger application forward. So its still an open
question as to what the actual timing of that is going to be. Its just that it will
not be we had been frankly expecting to file this month. Were not going to
do that. |
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(Louis Starks): |
Okay,
thank you very much. |
Coordinator: |
Thank
you. Our next question is from (Henry Casaglia) of Alpine Associates. |
(Henry Casaglia): |
Hi
guys, thank you for taking my call. Im not sure if you guys talked about this in
detail. The expedited review from Illinois would that be the only thing that would
delay if you didnt get that, would that be the only thing that would delay
the deal in the past first quarter 07? |
Man: |
The
legal advisors do not assume the other approval to present any kind of problems at this
point in terms of timing. |
(Henry Casaglia): |
So
if they in fact, you know, didnt accept the increase infrastructure build out or
what not, that would delay the deal. Do we have an idea of how much time past the first
quarter of 07 we would be looking at? |
Man: |
No,
that would not delay the deal. That - it sounds like that will be part of the WPS merger
or the merger application of the combined companies but that would
not delay the deal. |
(Henry Casaglia): |
All
right, thank you. |
Coordinator: |
Thank
you. Our next question is from (Mark Lunenberg) of Talon Capital. |
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(Mark Lunenberg): |
Good
morning, one quick follow-up. Historically you have raised the dividend consistently and
its been in July. Unless I missed it I dont see a dividend increase as part
of this announcement. Am I to assume that theres not going to be one this year? |
Joe OLeary: |
This
is Joe. I think, you know, you mentioned that it typically happens in July. Let's wait
and see what happens in July. |
(Mark Lunenberg): |
Okay,
very good. Thank you. And one quick follow-up question, I think the savings estimates of
$72 million in the regulated business looks good and aggressive. Im kind of
surprised that taking two corporations into one would only get you $8 million in savings
from the non-reg. Could you talk about that a little bit? |
Man: |
Well
I think the non-regs are basically fairly new companies and they their processes
are pretty lean for the volume of business that theyre already doing. And so the
synergies we expect to capture there are possibly some buying synergies because its
a larger company. Theres we actually have I think two offices in the Chicago
area and a few things like that. But, you know, those are young companies. And the IT
platforms that they use are fairly compatible I believe. |
Man: |
Theyre
also that also is only a cost synergy number. We fully expect there to be margin
opportunities from learning from each others best practices and bringing the WPS
business, a strong platform in to the Chicago (unintelligible) region. |
(Mark Lunenberg): |
Okay
great, thanks very much. |
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Coordinator: |
Thank
you. Our next question is from (Doug Fisher) of A.G. Edwards. |
(Doug Fisher): |
Thank
you. Could you elaborate, you started to give a breakdown of the percentages for the
synergies. And I was unclear whether that was for the regulated synergies or the total
synergies. And then secondly what of either of those numbers would be related to gas
procurement particularly on the regulated side? Of the $72 million, what would be related
to gas procurement? |
Joe OLeary: |
(Doug) this is Joe. The chart the slide that is slide 16 provides those
percentages. And thats total synergies in terms of the breakdown in that. We
dont have the information to try to break it down to the different components within
regulated although it should be fairly close to that except for the natural gas supply. I
believe that one is entirely of a regulated nature. |
(Doug Fisher): |
Okay
thank you Joe. |
Coordinator: |
Thank
you. Our next question is from (Joe Volbro) of (Suttonbrook). |
(Joe Volbro): |
Hi,
thanks. I dont know if I missed it. Was there a (break-up) fee that you guys announced
today? |
Man: |
Yes,
it will be in the 8-K. I dont know if we announced this but it will be - its part of
the 8-K where the merger agreement will be, an exhibit to the 8-K. |
(Joe Volbro): |
Okay
and that will be filed later... |
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Man: |
That
will be filed today. |
(Joe Volbro): |
Okay.
That's all I had, thank you. |
Coordinator: |
Thank
you. And our next question is from (Richard Dwight) of Thompson Financial. (Richard
Dwight), and your line is open sir. Please unmute your phone if you
have it muted. Mr. (Dwight), your phone is muted sir. Please unmute
your phone. |
|
And
once again, if anyone else has a question please press Star 1 to ask a question and Star
2 to cancel. And once again thats Star 1 if anyone else has a question. Thank you.
And at this time I show no questions. Once again thats Star 1 if anyone has a
question. Thank you. And we do have a question from (Dean Ozofski) of Credit Suisse. |
(Dean Ozofski): |
Good
morning. You say in your press release that your principal regulatory approvals will come
from the ITC and FERC. There are other mentions in other places of also approval from the
Public Service Commission of Wisconsin. Is there one thats considered to be, you
know, sort of tougher or more crucial than the other? Are they on different timelines,
are they the same or different standards? And are there any other states which we should
be concerned about? |
Joe OLeary: |
This is Joe. With regards to your question on Wisconsin, under the regulatory rules of
Wisconsin they need to approve the affiliate interest agreement that would be required in
order to for some sharing of services that may take place in the future and
theyre not approving the transaction per se. Approval of the transaction is required
in Illinois by the Illinois commission and approval of the transaction is also at the FERC
level I believe as well. |
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Man: |
No
approvals are expected to be needed in the other states, Michigan or Minnesota. |
(Dean Ozofski): |
Whats
the standard thats applied to merger transactions in Illinois? |
Man: |
The
basic criteria in a nutshell is that there be no harm to rate payers as a result of the
transaction. There is a schedule of seven issues that need to be considered but they
generally go to matters like not diminishing the utilitys ability to provide
adequate, reliable, safe service, no unjustified subsidization of non-utility activities.
I think this is a standard kind of list that youll see in most jurisdictions. But
it can be summarized as no harm to consumers. |
(Dean Ozofski): |
No
harm as opposed to positive public benefit in some places. |
Man: |
Right.
Although as I have mentioned in my comments earlier I think thats one of the good things
about this. Well be able to go to the regulators and talk about
positive benefits. |
(Dean Ozofski): |
I
know that this combination has been talked about for a little while. How did you guys end
up together? |
Man: |
I
guess we saw each other at the dance and our strategic planning groups lurking around
identified that this combination made a lot of sense for both
companies. Other than that... |
Man: |
Yeah,
I mean, it has been you can say a lengthy courtship. This was not lightly entered into.
Both of us had identified one another as strong potential candidates really almost two
years ago and had intermittent discussions over that period and it came together very
well within the last few months. |
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(Dean Ozofski): |
Was
this the best of, I mean, was there any other attempt on either part to look outside this
combination for from a strategic perspective? |
Larry Weyers: |
You
know, from our perspective at WPS Resources we look around the neighborhood at all our
possible opportunities and have been doing so for a long time. And we believe that this
one is right at the top. |
Tom Patrick: |
And
from Peoples perspective we had. We view this as a strategic process and it was as a
result of a strategic process that we had initial contact with WPS back in early 2005.
And weve looked at it from the perspective of the financial strength of the
company, the logic of the businesses fitting together, the elements that helped not just
shareholders but customers and employees. So it was an all around strategic
consideration. |
(Dean Ozofski): |
Okay,
appreciate it. Thank you. |
Coordinator: |
Thank
you. And we do have time for one more question and our question is from (A.J. Gupta) of
(Rafu) Capital. |
(A.J. Gupta): |
Hey,
how are you guys doing today? |
Man: |
Pretty
good, how are you doing (A.J.)? |
(A.J. Gupta): |
Doing
well. I apologize if you guys already addressed this. I had two questions, one to recap,
theres going to be no state approval required in Wisconsin? |
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Joe OLeary: |
This
is Joe. There is no state - there is no requirement for approval of the transaction.
There is a need for an approval of the affiliate interest
agreement, affiliate services agreement, Im sorry. |
(A.J. Gupta): |
Okay,
and then as far as you have not released any as far as timing as far as the planned rate
increase for Illinois? Those will be discussed later? |
Man: |
Yeah
we havent actually determined when or if there will be a rate request in Illinois. |
(A.J. Gupta): |
Okay,
any expected timeline for that decision, whether it will or will not happen? I mean... |
Man: |
Well
were going to focus on the transaction and try to get the transaction approved first.
And, you know, the transition team will be looking at other options
during that time. |
(A.J. Gupta): |
Okay,
thank you. |
Coordinator: |
Thank
you. And were at the end of our time now. I will turn the call back over to Mr. Weyers. |
Larry Weyers: |
On
behalf of WPS Resources and Peoples Energy I want to thank you for joining us today to
discuss the merger of our two companies. We believe the combination will create a leading
diversified energy company in a transaction that will create benefits for both companies shareholders
and other stakeholders. |
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If
you have further questions please contact (Donna Sheedy) at WPS Resources at 920-433-1857
or (Doug Ruschau) of Peoples Energy at 312-240-3818. Thank you all for being with us
today. |
Coordinator: |
And
thank you for joining this conference call and you may disconnect at this time. |
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