FILED PURSUANT TO RULE 425
Filed by Zimmer Holdings, Inc.
Commission File No. 001-16407
Pursuant to Rule 425 under the Securities Act of 1933
and deemed filed pursuant to Rule 14a-12 of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934
Subject Company: Centerpulse AG
Commission File No. 001-14654
The following is a transcript of a question and answer session, which formed part of a Zimmer Holdings, Inc. conference call conducted on May 20, 2003
ZIMMER HOLDINGS, INC.
Moderator: David Dvorak
May 20, 2003
7:30 a.m. CT
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We think that Centerpulse is a great company and that this
transaction is an equally great opportunity for the shareholders of both
companies. And with that, well be happy to take your questions.
Melinda? |
Operator: Thank you, gentlemen. Todays question and answer session will be
conducted electronically. If you would like to ask a question, please
press the star key followed by the digit one on your touch-tone telephone.
If youre on a speakerphone, please remove your mute function to allow
your signal to reach our equipment. Again, thats star, one if youd like
to ask a question. Well pause for just a moment to assemble the roster.
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And our first question will come from Katherine Martinelli of
Merrill Lynch. |
Katherine Martinelli: Oh, great. Thank you. Good morning, everyone.
Male: Good morning, Katherine.
Katherine Martinelli: Ray, the first question just a clarification. I
thought you had mentioned on the call that the combined sales or the
ongoing sales for Centerpulse were around $800 million U.S. dollars. I
thought in the press release it talked about something in the range of
$925 million. So
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just trying to understand what assumption we should be using for revenue
from Centerpulse, maybe looking into 04. |
Ray Elliott: I dont know. Id have to check it, Katherine, but I believe
the correct revenue is $798. If theres an error in the match-up, Ill
have to cross check it. It should be roughly $800, plus $1.4 billion
equals $2.2.
Katherine Martinelli: OK, great. And then ...
Ray Elliott: I will do that for you, though.
Katherine Martinelli: Thank you. And then just separately, maybe just giving
us a sense for the plans for the sales force in the U.S. since it sounds
like there isnt a whole lot of overlap between your two sales forces
maybe giving us a sense is the plan to keep both sales forces operating
independently and then maybe over time mesh them, or are you looking to
redraw out some of the lines in terms of territories covered?
Ray Elliott: Yes, let me comment on reconstructive first because I think the
answers might be somewhat different. Reconstructively, we do very, very
little overlap. The strengths are actually mirrored on almost a by state
and by city basis and therefore our plan, and you and the other listeners
know very well in this business the strength of the sales force and their
independent relationships. So the plan is to run them over time to
become obviously a single company but hopefully not lose very many folks
and I think that should be doable.
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I think the other thing I would comment is they do have some very
good distributors, several of whom I know personally, and we see them as
being a real strength. If I shift to spine and trauma, we have slowly
converted to trauma specialists. Were not where we want to be. I think
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allows us to not only look more strongly at that concept, but very
clearly to also run an independent spine sales force. |
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And we often get asked the question, you know, were not in the
spinal business. We dont know the spinal surgeons. Its actually a
little misleading. Virtually all of them know us because they trained on
Zimmer. And secondly, almost everybody who is in private practice is
partnered with a spine surgeon, a hand surgeon, a hip, knee and so on.
And therefore, over time we met and know very well many of the spinal
surgeons. |
Katherine Martinelli: OK. Thats very helpful. And maybe just lastly, Ray,
the plans and terms on the manufacturing side since I believe you guys do
have a fair amount of capacity in Puerto Rico, is that when you said the
opportunity to bring the tax rate down going forward, is it tied to moving
the manufacturing to Puerto Rico?
Ray Elliott: Thats one of the ways. I think one of the things and were
certainly being careful to make sure the Centerpulse employees understand
this as well the doubling or expansion of Puerto Rico was not
particularly to accommodate reconstructive, but rather was to accommodate
growth, particularly in the vertical integration of spinal production,
either our own products, as you know, or if we were able to do an
acquisition or multiple acquisitions.
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We really like this set up. Those people that know us well know
that we like big plants that run full out, a lot of automation
opportunity. We think the Winterthur plant is a terrific place. Weve
made a long-term commitment to the people there to keep it operating. We
will expand Puerto Rico. It does have tax-favorable benefits as does
Winterthur itself. And, of course, we have very strong operation in
Warsaw. But big plants running full out, lower tax systems and tried to
avoid obviously any negative effects from any layoffs are precisely what
we have in mind. |
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Sam, did you want to add a comment? |
Sam Leno: Yes. Katherine, with regards to our tax rate reduction
opportunity, as you may recall last year we spent a good deal of effort
and money, frankly, at putting together a more efficient tax structure in
the U.S.
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And I did mention on several of our calls that going forward, even
as a stand-alone company, we had additional opportunity as we began to
turn our focus and attention at the international scene for us. Given the
sheer size of Centerpulse in Europe especially, and the fact that we were
going to look at our international tax structure, it represents an even
larger opportunity for us now. |
Katherine Martinelli: OK. So the reconstructive manufacturing for Centerpulse
would stay based in Switzerland but maybe move some of the spine to Puerto
Rico.
Ray Elliott: Yes. I think its interesting, most spine manufacturers, other
than I think Medtronic and Accumed, most of them actually are not very
well vertically integrated. Theyre almost sales marketing organizations.
And we see that as a chance to have two or three kicks at it, if you
will. You vertically integrate spines at high margins and if you can put
them vertically integrated in a low tech zone, obviously you get some real
benefits.
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Katherine, I just ran a quick check. The number I gave you was
correct. I said $800 continuing ops $798 is the correct figure there
for approximately $800. |
Katherine Martinelli: Thats U.S. dollars?
Ray Elliott: That is U.S. dollars, yes.
Katherine Martinelli: OK, great. Thank you.
Operator: Next well hear from Milton Hsu of Bear Stearns.
Milton Hsu: Ray, basically cross-border acquisitions have historically posed
some, you know, imposing challenges on the acquire, but have you guys
thought through maybe the cultural differences between the two companies
and manufacturing plants and, you know, how to integrate that going
forward?
Ray Elliott: Yes, I think thats a good question, Milton, and I think thats
traditionally been the case, although you know from talking to us that we
have, in fact, been involved over the years, having done a lot of
transactions, in several cross-border transactions including both Asia and
Europe, although we have not done one and I dont think Sam has done one
in Switzerland.
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If we look at the cultures and the people we know there, and
specifically Swiss culture in general, I dont see that theres a
tremendous amount of difficulties. They are very much a performance-based
business. They very much expect the kind ((inaudible)) from management. |
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When we started the turnaround at Zimmer, we had a huge number and
going back many years of (ex pat) North Americans running operations all
around the world. Weve changed all that. Were now totally run by
local country nationals. We believe in that theory. So I think as we
look at it, were as not as concerned as I might be in a variety of other
deals Ive been involved with over the years. |
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I think the other thing is the key issue here, certainly in Europe,
is the protection of what we consider a real gem at Winterthur and
therefore the comfort level for those employees to feel that theyve got
an ongoing future I think once thats established and once they get a
chance to know us personally, I think a lot of the other issues tend to
fade away. People get concerned about ongoing employment and whether
youll impose your kind of style. I think a lot of that can be handled
properly. |
Milton Hsu: OK. And second, was there any new information or new analysis or
insight on your part that made you bump up the offer here? After all, you
know, Smith & Nephew kicked out this offer to them maybe two months ago.
Ray Elliott: Well, let me backtrack you to last October last year. We have
had several discussions. We did put in a preliminary offer in October
that, at the time, had about I believe a 26 percent premium to trailing 30
days. Both companies have changed since then. Theyve done a real nice
job of taking care of the product liability situation, theyve divested
the cardio businesses neatly, cleanly and did well from that. And theyve
clearly got their momentum back. Theyve always retained strong loyalty.
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We, on the other hand, have continued, you know, strong performance,
paying down our debt and have continued to look at the opportunity, as
well as talk to other people, as you well know. What changed the
situation, of course, was the Smith & Nephew offer. And were kind of
disappointed. Were not sure why we didnt get a copy of the
confidential memorandum. |
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But be that as it may, weve elected to go in at this time. The
only reason we didnt obviously go in more quickly after the announcement
is simply we knew there was going to be a lot of filings. The filings
may contain significant useful information. But if you look at our offer
today, I think one of the tests we get into is compared to what? This
offer is accretive for us in the first year, pre-synergies, has a premium
on it to the trailing 30 days prior to the Smith & Nephew offer
comparable to the premium that we offered back in October and, in fact,
very comparable to the kinds of premiums that are placed on Swiss
transactions over the last five years. |
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So I think were very comfortable in both the value it represents
ongoing, but also the fact that it is, you know, a fair and attractive
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the first year pre-synergies which, you know, as you know is in keeping
with the rules that weve established. |
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You know, at the end of day, and I respect Smith & Nephew for this,
you know, they put in a low offer. And at the end of the day, that game
doesnt work. Were here and were here to stay and were committed to
be the victor in this. |
Milton Hsu: OK. And last question, are you expecting at this point Smith &
Nephew to counter your offer?
Ray Elliott: I would have absolutely no idea. As far as Im concerned,
weve put in a dramatically superior offer thats very compelling both in
the financial aspects and the strategic aspects. What they do is up to
them.
Milton Hsu: OK. Thanks.
Ray Elliott: Youre welcome.
Operator: Moving to Mike Weinstein of JP Morgan.
Mike Weinstein: Thank you. We probably have a lot of ground to cover, but I
do want to kind of go back over some of the questions that Milton was
asking.
Ray Elliott: Sure.
Mike Weinstein: Ray, Im still struggling a little bit with kind of the
question, Whats changed in terms of your view of the value of
Centerpulse? I think from the press release that you guys had put out
back I think it was in November of last year indicating that you were not
in discussions with them...
Ray Elliott: Yes.
Mike Weinstein: ... and then your subsequent comments at health care
conferences suggesting that you thought that the stock was already fairly
valued prior to the Smith & Nephew offer and then you place this offer.
Wheres the incremental value that youve discovered today versus perhaps
a few months back?
Ray Elliott: Well, yes. Two or three things, Mike. Number one, the offer
and discussion youre referring to and the press release, I should say,
that came out, our response to that was, first of all, we were not in
discussions. We had ended discussions. That was November-something
17th, 20th, I cant remember now that was well after we had put in our
initial offer and talks had not been there. So we were not in discussion.
If you will recall, the reason we put out a response was because the
press release or rumor or whatever, indicated that we had a highly
dilutive offer. We simply dont do highly dilutive offers. Weve told
our shareholders that many, many times. We dont do it, period. So our
response was really relative to that.
In terms of whats changed, you know I think, you know, as I
mentioned, both companies have improved significantly them through
product liability recovery of sales, divestiture of cardio, clean-up of
the business. Its a great fundamental business that, unfortunately,
stumbled primarily due to a product recall. And we have improved as
well.
So we havent gone to sleep on this. We simply had to move our
timing up because of Smith & Nephew. But weve continued to watch this
business very closely. We wanted to see another quarter of results and
weve continued to be pleased with what weve seen. So while weve been
silent on it, nothing has really changed.
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In terms of any comments at various investor meetings, I think what
Ive always said to people is, Yes, Centerpulse does meet our very
defined goals in terms of spine and Europe and so on. Its not the only
vehicle for getting Zimmer to victory. And that remains true today.
Obviously, were committed to doing this deal, but it very clearly is not
the only methodology for getting there.
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So I dont think anything has changed. And I think you know with
us, Mike, I mean our disclosure level is, at least as far as were
concerned, is extremely high. Weve been very up front about our
strategic plans and very up front about how inflexible we are on our
acquisition criteria. So, you know, I think weve stayed true to that
all the way through.
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Mike Weinstein: Ray, you know, in the last, you know, whatever couple of
years since you guys came out of Bristol, youve been very proud of the
fact that the company has been the fastest growing company in the
orthopaedic space. If youre successful in this transaction, you
obviously have to end up foregoing that claim given the overall size of
the combined entities. It would be very difficult to be the fastest
growing company in the space.
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And you said earlier in the call that bigger isnt always better but
strategically it makes a lot of sense. Why in this case I understand
the match up in geography and the technology but why is bigger better
in this case? And why it is necessarily the best thing in terms of
creating value for the company? |
Ray Elliott: Well, first of all, youre foregoing our chance to be the
fastest growing company a lot quicker than I would.
Mike Weinstein: Understood.
Ray Elliott: So having said that, I think bigger is better in this case
and I really dont necessarily always believe bigger is better. I mean, I
clearly dont and I explained that. But I think when you look at the
scaling that we get in some very specific areas, you know, this is not a
business with feet on the street here, for instance, means coverage and it
means case coverage.
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Theres absolutely no question in my mind that weve got hospitals
spread around the world that we simply dont and cant get to. Were
busy. Its difficult to add the kind of people that are sufficiently
experienced to walk into an operating room and really contribute to the
process. I honestly believe and weve said many, many times, one of the
things I love about this deal is were not ending up with 25 plants. |
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Often you do these deals and one person has 12 and the other person
has 13 plants. We end up with a plant combination that makes scale
meaningful instead of trying to get from 25 to 12, you get the chance to
center your plants around the world, have really tremendous flow-through,
run them seven days a week, if thats appropriate in the country where
you are. The tax base is automation and so on. |
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In terms of R&D, were not Pharma, but I would tell you that as
medical devices moves into combination products, drug and device, as it
moves into biologics as an example, having scale dollars available to
invest becomes extremely important, as does having the ability to defend
long-range intellectual property with a significant collection of world
patents. Our patents are not example as strong sometimes in Europe or
other places, whereas they have tremendously strong patents. |
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So, I mean, I can give you other examples because theres, in my
opinion, a ton of them. Surgeon solutions. Weve done a good job at
Zimmer during the turnaround of really filling in gaps and coming out
with some great new products as evidenced by our discussion of our
pipeline. But we dont have all the solutions in Warsaw. And
Centerpulse has come up some |
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really good-looking new products that do mirror image and fit in. So
scale of products and offering, scale of surgical solutions. Theres
four or five. You know, I could do it for an hour, and wont. Bigger is
not always better, but in this case scale is an edge. |
Mike Weinstein: Sam, could I just ask you walked through some of the
details on the offering and your expectations on what the combined company
would look like. You did suggest that part of the equation is a falling
tax rate. Can you give us what your thoughts are around that and is the
transaction accretive in 2004 from a cash standpoint or just from a
reported standpoint?
Sam Leno: Its actually both. When we talk about accretion, its accretive
from an earnings per share point of view. Its also accretive from an
operating profit point of view. As it relates to the tax rate, clearly
well have more insight once we complete our due diligence process as to
what all the, especially European, opportunities are available to us in
terms of bringing down our overall effective tax rate going forward.
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They also have, I would mention that does not affect our effective
tax rate, but clearly is an additional source of cash to us as it is for
Smith & Nephew, they have considerable net operating losses, as you know,
in the U.S. because of the (intera) problem. And based on our due
diligence process, which we have not yet completed, we will determine the
most efficient legal structure, both in the U.S. and internationally,
particularly Europe, to be able to avail ourselves of not only
(monetizing) those net operating losses, but also to lower our effective
tax rate going forward. |
Mike Weinstein: OK. As I drop here, I apologize to everybody, but, Ray,
given your arguments for the combinations that youve laid out here, what
should we think about if you go down this path and youre not successful?
What does that mean strategically for the company if this is Plan A and
Plan A doesnt work? Is there a Plan B? Thanks.
Ray Elliott: Oh, sure. Absolutely. Im going to reinforce our commitment
to this. You know, this is an obviously major deal and we are committed
to winning this one. But, you know, as I commented earlier and as Ive
commented to people before, theres two ways that I can see to get to
where we need to be. This is one. I consider it the best one. It is
Plan A and we will be there.
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However, you know, failing that to properly answer your question
we will do what weve said in the past and thats cobble together, we
continue and not at this point, I might add but we have continued to
have good conversations with companies related to both spine and Europe
and other technologies, frankly, that were capable of putting together,
you know, these are companies with private values that tend to be under
$100 million dollars, although some that could be a little over that, and
we will cobble those together in combination with developing Zimmer brand
products, particularly in spine and the more routine product areas. |
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So, we can do it and we can do it well, but this is the best way to
go and its the one that were committed to. But for us, we continue on
with Plan B should that, you know, every happen. |
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You also have to remember too that, you know, in our view thing its
Smith & Nephew thats really the second party in. I mean, this is just a
continuation of our offer, you know, from last October. And sometimes
things take a while to sort out and work through. But, you know, thats
Plan A. But Zimmer carries on successfully regardless of this situation. |
Operator: Was there anything further, Mr. Weinstein?
Ray Elliott: I think the rest of the audience is probably hoping no. It
sounds like Mikes gone.
Operator: Moving on to Bruce Jacobs of Deutsche Bank.
Bruce Jacobs: Thanks, guys. Can I, Sam, perhaps get you to walk through the
04 economics. When I do the math I cant quite get to neutral EPS or
accretive EPS. And Id love you to just touch on the interest costs on
the debt, what the Centerpulse pre-tax contribution would be and then what
assumption youre using for the tax rate in 04 if you could.
Sam Leno: Yes. As you know, we dont give detailed forecast information
out. But its simple to see if you just look at the first quarter of
this, which is historic information, Bruce, youll see when we file our
registration statement that even in the first quarter of this year without
any chance to bring the two companies together operationally, the EPS that
we reported as a stand-alone company is the same on a combined basis.
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So going forward as we look at our guidance going forward, as well
as where the street has us today and combining ourselves with
Centerpulse, that just gets better over time. So we start out on a
pretty solid footing and it continues to improve going forward because of
the availability of the combination even without synergies, and it gets
considerably better with synergies once we get past the first two years
where we have synergies offsetting some assumed negative drag on sales. |
Bruce Jacobs: So you wont give us an interest rate on the debt?
Sam Leno: No. That will be disclosed publicly in the filing.
Bruce Jacobs: Can you comment at least directionally if your assumption
assumes the tax rate is lower in 04 than you currently have?
Male: Well, the tax rate is clearly lower because our tax rate, as you know,
for this year so far is 33.7 percent 33.5, 33.7 their reported tax
rate as a stand-alone company is 29 percent. And if you just simply
combine the two without doing anything, you have a better effective
blended tax rate.
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In addition to that, we have the ability because, as I mentioned in
response to (Catherines) question, we have the ability even as a
stand-alone company where focus is a priority for this year 03, to look
at our European tax structure and provide a more efficient structure
similar to what we did in the U.S. in 2002. |
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Now that we have the opportunity to bring together a much bigger
company that we are in Europe, with their already more efficient tax rate
structure, we think with some focus on what the legal structure ought to
be going forward, we can do even better as a combined company than just a
simple addition of the two blended rates. |
Bruce Jacobs: OK. The other question I wanted to ask you touched on a little
bit, can you just walk us through the timing from here? What are the key
milestones, the dates by which the Swiss laws require responses from
various parties just so we know how to track this from here on out?
Male: The next step is to begin the due diligence process and letters will go
into the relevant parties to initiate that process. We will work that
concurrent with filing documents with the SEC and the Swiss Takeover
Board.
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The next milestone date is the launch of the offer, which we
currently plan to be June 17th. Thereafter, there would be a shareholder
meeting on our side. That offer period would run through 40 trading days
and close out on August 12th. And if there were an extension of the
offer, that would expire before the end of the month and wed bring down
shares and settle at about that time, targeting the end of August. |
Bruce Jacobs: And does the launch of the offer require Centerpulse agreeing
to the offer?
Male: It does not.
Bruce Jacobs: OK. And then just a last question, the break-up on the Smith &
Nephew deal can you just comment on that?
Male: Twenty million.
Bruce Jacobs: Twenty million? Great. Thats all I had, guys. Thanks very
much.
Male: Thanks, Bruce.
Male: Thats a Swiss franc number, Bruce.
Bruce Jacobs: OK, perfect. Thanks.
Male: Thanks, Bruce.
Operator: Bob Hopkins of Lehman Brothers has our next question.
Bob Hopkins: Thanks very much. Can you hear me, OK?
Male: I can. Hi, Bob.
Bob Hopkins: Oh, great. A quick question. I was wondering if you could
just walk us through the timeline of events once more just so I make sure
that I understand this. You guys mentioned that in October you put in a
bid for Centerpulse that was at, I think you mentioned the 26 percent
premium to the stock price at that point? Is that right?
Male: No, to the trailing 30 days immediately prior to our offer.
Bob Hopkins: OK. And was that a premium bid relative to Smith & Nephews?
Male: Im not aware of any oh, you meant to their current bid today are you
saying?
Bob Hopkins: To the original bid that they had on the table. Im just
trying to understand why your initial bid was that below Smith &
Nephews why that didnt ...?
Male: Thats what I cant answer, Bob, because I dont know the answer to it.
Thats something you would have to ask the Centerpulse folks. The
situation from our perspective was we had some good discussions. We know
those folks well, had the opportunity to meet with Dr. Link and others and
our group. We, at that time and at that time being an underlined set of
words here we put in a primarily offer which we felt was appropriate and
did have a 26 percent premium to the trailing 30 days immediately prior.
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That offer was considered I suppose by them not acceptable. We
continued to look at the business, have a few discussions, but by the
time that rumor situation came up in November, of course, we were really
not in discussions, did not have any discussions after that through the
entire period I presume Smith & Nephew was talking to them. |
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They, according to the disclosures in the documents, did put out the
confidential memorandum which Ive not seen, and we werent offered one,
but I presume its pretty standard fare. The only thing we know about
the Smith & Nephew discussions, at least to the best of our knowledge, is
that they were granted an exclusive at 252 Swiss francs when our primary
offer was 250. And we have indicated that we were prepared to move that
offer upwards based upon new information and, frankly, a little more
diligence, a little more information. So I cant tell you why they made
the decisions they made. You would have to ask them that. But that is
an accurate, you know, detailing to you of what precisely happened during
those time frames. |
Bob Hopkins: So it sounds like your bid was roughly equivalent to the one
that Smith & Nephew put forward at the time that they initially put it
forward?
Male: To the very best of our knowledge, although they were granted an
exclusive. And thats kind of the limit of what we know. As I say, one
of the things we dont understand, and frankly were disappointed by, was
a lack of clarity around that and really not getting the confidential
memorandum.
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But, you know, deals have ebb and flow points and, you know, I dont
think and its certainly intended in any way to be critical of anybody
weve got to do what weve got to do to make, you know, Zimmer win.
And thats precisely what were doing. But I believe youll find those
facts I gave you are accurate. |
Bob Hopkins: And is there any difference between your bid and the Smith &
Nephew bid other than the price in terms of, you know, the terms of the
agreement, you know, any guarantees, any material differences as far as
you know?
Male: Actually there are a couple of conditions and Ill ask David to respond
to those and just give you a brief review of what they are.
David Dvorak: Yes, the conditions that we have in our offer are a mirror
image of the conditions that Smith & Nephew contains in theirs with the
exception of two additions, and they are really driven by the fact that we
havent had access to due diligence.
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The first of those addresses the product liability problem and it
allows us to confirm that, within a reasonable range, the provisions that
Centerpulse currently has on their books or as of their year end will be
adequate to cover up any further settlement or funding costs that relate
to the product liability litigation. |
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The second of the conditions is the confirmatory piece regarding the
spin-off that took place from (Sulzer AG) and that is just a matter of
ensuring that no subsequent transaction would taint the tax spin-off
treatment that they received at the time of their spin-off from their
parent. |
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The one other difference between the offers that is included in the
conditions is a lower condition regarding the satisfaction for tendered
shares. Ours it at 6.7 percent and Smith & Nephews is at 75 percent. |
Male: Bob, I would add one more thing, even though you said other than price,
Ray has already mentioned that our price is 24 percent higher than their
price was at the time of their offer. More importantly we believe, or as
importantly, is the cash portion of our price is 63 percent higher than
the cash portion of the Smith & Nephew price. So were offering 120 Swiss
francs as opposed to the 73 Swiss francs offered by Smith & Nephew. We
think thats compelling.
Bob Hopkins: OK. Thank you. And then just one question on your guidance
for 2004, do you assume in our guidance the $50 million dollars of
(disynergies) that you mentioned?
Male: No, we dont. But the $15 million of (disynergies) is more than offset
by positive expense synergies. So in our guidance, we have excluded all
synergies going forward. But although the $50 million dollars in year one
lowered to $25 million dollars in year two is a negative drag, the expense
synergies offset that.
Bob Hopkins: OK. Im just wondering. You know, your guidance has been that
this deal would be neutral before OK, all right. I see. The other
question I had is the last one, I promise is could you just remind me
what level of synergies that youre forecasting again? What was the total
number?
Male: The total is a range of $70 to $90 million. And well get there within
about a three-year period. And the reason that it takes three years
because a manufacturing pieces, which as Ray indicated is probably a
little more than 20 percent of the total synergies, it does take a lot
longer to not only determine what the best way is to access those
manufacturing costs, but because the amount of inventory that we have we
have 250 days and they have, even if we were to manufacture a new lower
cost piece of inventory today, we dont get the benefit of the that new
lower cost inventory on our profit and loss statement until its sold. And
we sell inventory essentially on a five-fold basis. There is a delayed
P&L effect of reducing manufacturing costs and raw material costs.
Bob Hopkins: OK. So the net synergy would be therefore in the $40 to $50
million dollar range?
Male: Net income?
Bob Hopkins: No, Im sorry. No, never mind. Ill follow up off line.
Thanks very much. Well move on to the next question.
Male: Thanks, Bob.
Operator: Peter Cartwright of Williams Debrow Stoc has our next question.
Peter Cartwright: Yes, thank you for taking the call. Do you expect any
intervention from the competition of parties either in Europe or the U.S.?
Male: I think our early expectation is no. We dont see anything at this
point under EU or Hart-Scott-Rodino that we think would be applicable
here. There may be, you know, because theres 70 or 80 countries
involved, there may be a country here and there where well have to take a
closer look. But the early view is that this is not a material item.
Peter Cartwright: Theres no automatic trigger either from the size of the
(ten) over the U.S. or from market share?
Male: No, there is not, although Hart-Scott-Rodino must be satisfied. The
size of the combined sales relative to the EU falls under the EU barrier
of $2.5 billion dollars and therefore is not relevant. But
Hart-Scott-Rodino certainly is.
Peter Cartwright: Thank you very much.
Male: Youre welcome.
Operator: George Gedeon of GLG Partners.
George Gedeon: Good morning, gentlemen. I had three questions for you. The
first one was why you didnt go for a higher cash component to the offer
just to make absolutely sure that Smith & Nephew wont come back.
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The second question is regarding, you know, the rationale for
((inaudible)) is it your understanding of how Smith & Nephew can
counter in terms of matching your price? Exactly how does it work? Will
they have to match it cash for cash, shares for shares, how it works and
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And the third thing, I dont understand why you have these, you
know, like the Smith & Nephew conditions plus the two other conditions
youve mentioned. |
Male: Well, Ill quickly answer one and three and Ill ask David to talk
again on the middle one. On number one, I dont really have an answer for
you. We feel that its a compelling offer thats strategic and
financially better where it is and its already a 63 percent cash increase
over their
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offer so I wouldnt get beyond that in discussing our cash-to-stock
strategy on how we positioned the deal. The two the third question,
with respect to the extra two conditions is simply a function of the fact
that we have not had the degree of access on those two subjects that we
would require and theyre both very material to the deal. We are not
expecting that we will be unable to waive them. Were simply positioning
ourselves to review those materials product liability and, of course,
the triggering of tax implications relative to the Sulzer AG merge. So
its only a case of ensuring we have a review thats appropriate. And,
as I say, we expect to waive those, finding the appropriate information. |
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David, are you comfortable on the second question or ... |
David Dvorak: Im going to have to ask you to repeat the second question.
Male: Could you repeat the second question a little bit for us, please?
George Gedeon: Yes. Sure. I mean, if I look today at your bid, you know, it
seems to me Im reading what Smith & Nephew said in terms of our agreement
with InCentive. They could match your offer and buy the InCentive shares.
And I was interested in your interpretation of what does it mean,
matching the offer which you have put through. I mean, clearly, you must
have thought about, you know, whats Smith & Nephew ability to counter bid
here.
David Dvorak: It seems that the way the documents read, they have an
opportunity to either match the offer and then go ahead and attempt to
take down the shares that InCentive holds in Centerpulse. Alternatively,
they can go ahead and permit the InCentive party to accept the superior
bid. So thats a decision that they will have to make. It should be
noted, though, that, in the event they do decide to go ahead and buy the
shares, if theres a superior bid pending, relating to the balance of the
shares of Centerpulse, that they would theyd have to do that at the
higher price and hence pay a control premium for a non-controlling
interest in that party.
Male: And also, as a result, it doesnt while it exists, it doesnt seem to
be very practical to us that Smith & Nephew would make a conscious
decision to tie up essentially over $500 million of capital and illiquid
stock for them that they for which they have no control. That makes no
sense to us.
Male: Yes, thats the key. I mean, I mean, they said it more eloquently than
I will but, frankly, would you want to be our minority participant?
Male: No, I mean, presumably, they were going to buy the 20 percent. They
were going to launch a bid also for the rest, but I understand. OK.
George Gedeon: Thank you.
Male: Thank you.
Operator: Mark Ort of Glazer Capital has our next question.
Mark Ort: Hi. Could you walk through the pro rate the election mechanism
how thats going to work? Specifically, if I were stock elector, what
would the ratio be that I would be electing and if I were a cash elector,
what would be the amount of cash Id be electing?
David Dvorak: Im not following the question.
Male: The cash portion, as you can tell from our numbers, is a little under
35 percent of the total. And without any election, the proceeds would be
as weve as weve described. And then we have the same mix and match
opportunity for their shareholders as Smith & Nephews are.
Male: Yes are you referring to the mix and match?
Mark Ort: Yes, I am. Im sorry.
David Dvorak: The mix and match feature is contained in both of the tender
offers. And the way it works is that there need to be matches of
preferences. And to the extent that there can be matched preferences
people trading off cash versus stock then they will be allowed to
transition their consideration in that way. And if there are unmatched
preferences, then they have to go with what the standard deal provides.
Mark Ort: OK. OK. Then I understand. What Im asking is if Id prefer cash
and lets assume for a moment that I get my preference, what will I get?
What is the value that youre ascribing to the to the full to the full
cash amount and what is the ratio that you would use, assuming somebody
preferred shares and, again, assuming that theyre that that individual
or entity would get the shares only? Theres got to be a ratio and a
value that youre using in order to in order for somebody to say yes, I
prefer this or no, I prefer that.
David Dvorak: That precise mechanism will be described in the in the file
documents.
Male: Its a its a detailed mechanism. Itll be described. It would be
it would be tough to do here over the over the phone. We know (each
time limit), but it would be very tough to do here over the phone. I
mean, unless we get in a long legal description or discussion. It is no
I mean, in terms of relative bid process, it is no different than the
Smith & Nephew procedure. The other thing is that a lot of these
decisions would arrive at the end of the process because we wouldnt know
any more than Smith & Nephew would what the ultimate mix of preferences
that people want to have until the process itself is done. So its really
speculative, at this point, other than the process. The fact is, the
capability is there and its very much like tallying a vote in an election
at the end of it. You dont know how it came out, until you know how it
came out.
Mark Ort: OK. And then the other question I had pertained to sort of a
follow-up to one of the previous callers you are going to be, by far,
the largest player in Europe, from what I can tell. And why, I mean, 40
days doesnt seem to factor in very much (wither) room for any sort of in
depth review by any of the various countries that you do business that
the combined entity does business with there, as far as competition.
David Dvorak: Yes. The analysis in Europe is, as Ray stated, because the
combined entity doesnt exceed that threshold its a number states
analysis and those are jurisdictions that do these analyses very quickly.
The key to our ability to analyze that more precisely is, obviously,
access to the information on Centerpulses side. But providing them
providing us with that information will allow the number state
jurisdictions to do the analysis, we believe, in a timely fashion. So
that should not be a pacing item.
Ray Elliott: Yes. The general principle here, just a rough deal for you,
without, obviously, doing the analysis I mean, theyre very strong in
Germany and France, Switzerland, obviously, Denmark and, to a lesser
extent, although strong in Italy. Were very strong in Italy. Were very
strong in Spain. They are not. Were strong in Belgium and Holland.
They are not as strong. We are not strong in France and Germany. So as
you start to look at the mirror images, in fact, the only one for sure we
know thats certainly over a 50 percent market share is Switzerland and
thats because theyre over 50 today and we hardly do any business there.
So theyve been that on their own.
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So it would tell you in general thats its highly unlikely theres
significant issues there. We may run into a few, you know, small ones as
we get into the details. |
Mark Ort: OK. Thank you.
Male: Youre welcome.
Operator: Moving onto John Seitz of Reach Capital.
John Seitz: Hi, guys. I just have a real quick question about the dental
business and what your plans are. Its kind of a new business for you and
the, you know, how aggressive are you going to be in that business or is
that going to be a business youre going to stay in?
Ray Elliott: Yes. At this point, we have every intention of staying in.
And while, of course, Zimmer has never been in the dental business, there
are some close associations in the technologies, in the reconstructive
aspects, in the management of bones, implantation of dental implants and
so. So, you know, there is, in bone management, certainly reconstructive.
Theres a lot of there are a lot of correlations and also theres
material correlations both alloys and in other substituting materials.
So thats one part of the answer. We like it, secondly, because of the
diversification aspects of it. It gives us another marketplace. It is
healthy and growing. They appear to have a great company, well run. They
look to be doing very well in dental.
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And third and last, just as an aside, we probably know a little bit
more about the dental business than you think. Sam and I grew up at
American Hospital Supply and we had some pretty dominant positions in the
dental businesses. And, in fact, Sam had the dental businesses reporting
to him, in one case, in the financial area and in one in the sales and
marketing area, I had used to have the dental business reporting to me.
So weve actually probably have got a little more knowledge about that
than people may realize. |
John Seitz: OK. Great. Thanks.
Male: Youre welcome.
Operator: (Howard Linos) of (Polygon Funds).
(Howard Linos): Can you hear me?
Male: Yes, we can.
(Howard Linos): Yes. I guess my questions are my one question thats
remaining because the previous caller answered one of them, is anything
that prevents or could prevent sensible shareholders from getting free
sight, if you like, of your bid in particular, and this may be some
convoluted aspect (of which) Im not familiar with but seems (readings)
of your conditions like the Centerpulse board of directors could just
basically refuse. They could not call the meeting. And in the context of
the way, perhaps, you were prevented from bidding first time around, can
you talk about how we shouldnt be worried about that?
David Dvorak: This action is a tender offer to the actual holders. So they
become the primary decision-makers. Of course, the board of directors
continues to have an important role to play and theyre guiding principle
is fiduciary duties that they owe to those shareholders. But its
important to note that, by virtue of the structure of the transaction, the
communication here principally is to the shareholders.
(Howard Linos): Right. OK. But if the board of directors refuses to call the
meeting, does that mean your bid cannot proceed?
David Dvorak: The fact of the matter is that if the shareholders (fender),
you can take down those shares if your minimum condition if met and you
gain a controlling interest of the company at that point.
Male: Long story short, the shareholders are going to vote the board of
directors, whether they call a meeting or not, is not relevant.
(Howard Linos): OK, gentlemen. Thanks very much.
Male: Just so you know just so you know OK. I was just going to let that
caller know theres a lot of background noise there, just so they know.
Operator: Lynn Pieper of Thomas Weisel Partners.
Lynn Pieper: Hi. Actually, most of my questions have been answered. I just
am hoping maybe you can go through some of the detail as what your plans
are for the spine market in bringing in Centerpulse to Zimmer. And then
also, the same for the dental market.
Male: Yes. Thanks, Lynn. The, you know, the dental market or the spinal
market, I should say, from our view we knew, of course, Spine-Tech
before they were Centerpulse. And our view on that business is that it
will remain an independent part of the business independent sales force.
You know, it will be structured into Zimmer, of course, as an operating
division. Our plans are to expand the sales force. They look to have
some very, very interesting new products, particularly in the fixation
stabilization areas, if they can move the (Dynases) product through.
Theyve just signed an agreement to do distribution of an (Optima)
product, which looks interesting from Korea. Theres obviously in the
although (cages) are coming down a bit, (cages) are still an important
product area. Theyve put in a (radiolucent cage) and so on and so on.
So theres some good product base there.
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I do believe that we will also move into some very rapid
acceleration of efforts, jointly, in the biologicals area. Ive said, in
the past, as a genuine compliment to Medtronic, I think (Infuse) looks
interesting. I think it has a good impact a good impact to market.
And I think we will all need to be there in order to compete at a higher
level. So I think those are the kind of areas. |
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On the integration side, non-people, certainly, as I mentioned to
(Katherine) when she called, one of the things we love about spinal is
that its not vertically integrated and thats we like vertically
integrated business. Were not outsourcers, were insourcers. So the
opportunity for us to vertically integrate spine from a product point of
view and then put it in a low tax jurisdiction such as Puerto Rico is a
real key opportunity for us going forward, as well. |
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On our side of things, we havent been not without our own work
effort. (Implex) has done some great stuff and, as you know, we have the
rights to that business. Theyve got a great looking (trajectory metal
cage) thats at a prototype stage that would be fun to merge in with this
work, as well as (trajectory metal) in general. And weve got our
transformational technologies in play at Warsaw, where were using some
very unique looks. Like of like MIS kind of landscape changing
technologies there. |
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Just a last minor note on Puerto Rico, its probably before several
of the callers times, but what people may forget is Zimmer was in the
spinal business a long time and used to actually manufacture spinal
products in Puerto Rico. So have some retained skills down there in
terms of setting that up. So lots of plans for spinal. Dental is
virtually a similar story. Im not as I mentioned, we know the markets
and whatnot somewhat better, probably, than people think we do. In terms
of their manufacturing capabilities, current structure and whatnot, Im
less knowledgeable in that. Well certainly look at it as an
opportunity. No plans to merge any sales forces there or do anything
like that. Dental and spine will stay as dedicated, specialized sales
forces. |
Lynn Pieper: OK. Great. And then just following on that, can we assume that
youll have your hands full integrating this for awhile and we will not
see any other smaller acquisitions in the spine area in the near term or
do you think youll still be looking around?
Male: Well, I think, yes. I mean, I think common sense dictates the size of
deal from a digestion point of view. Well have our full attention. We
cant afford to totally take our eye off everything if something comes
along. But, I mean, the probability of doing anything other than
something very small is unlikely in the near term. This you know, we
want this to have our fullest attention.
Lynn Pieper: OK. Great. Thanks a lot.
Male: Youre welcome.
Operator: Martin Hall of H.S.B.C. for the next question.
Martin Hall: Thank you. Yes, I just wanted to ask obviously, Smith & Nephew
has the right to come back and match your bid. Do you believe that youve
gone high enough to really kick Smith & Nephew into touch or do you have
sufficient scope for a little bit more upside should they come back that
really keeps them out of the market?
Male: It would be fascinating to answer that question for all 300 listeners
plus Smith & Nephew, but my intention is not to answer it other than to
tell you that if the statistics weve provided on (Premia) and on cash
portion over them and the strategies weve put together in detail, you
know, are not a sufficient explanation, then theres not much we can do
beyond that. But, you know, clearly, itd be pretty tough to answer that.
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I would remind you, though, that a word youve heard several times
and its a word worth repeating we were in the past and are now
committed to victory in this in this process and we remain committed to
it. You know, weve been weve been at this for a year. We have our
own set of disciplines. Weve done at least Sam and I have done more
than 200 deals over a 30-year lifetime. So, you know, we are we are
committed to this. But we have our own set of disciplines and timing and
we generally stick with those. Theyve been successful for us. |
Martin Hall: Thank you very much.
Male: Youre welcome.
Operator: And our next question comes from Tom Yankou with Morgan Stanley.
Tom Yankou: Yes. Do you have an estimate on how long it will take you to
complete due diligence once you have access to the confidential
information? The second question is is there anything unique about your
deal that would create a Sulzer tax situation where apparently Smith &
Nephew didnt have one. The third question is I have a two-thirds
minimum. Are you sacrificing any flexibility on the Swiss takeover law
that, you know, where 75 percent would give you an additional benefit?
And then the last question is do you have a financial markets out and how
do you plan on dealing with the foreign exposure between now and when you
fund the deal?
Sam Leno: Let me answer a couple this is Sam. From a due diligence point
of view, we believe that the due diligence could be done in as little as
two weeks to as much as four weeks. So its not a terribly drawn-out
process. The bigger issue in due diligence is how quickly will we indeed
have access gain access to the same information that was afforded to
both Smith & Nephew.
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Ill go to the last question and then Ill come back to tax. From
the financial markets point of view, we have a fully committed
underwritten credit facility so we dont have the financial markets out
because we have it financed. And from a foreign exchange point of view,
we did assess whether or not it made sense to hedge the transaction, but
because, even though we are committed, it still has a degree of
uncertainty to it we dont really have a hard transaction to hedge. |
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And to hedge it in this environment, as a result of that, we believe
it is just too (prohibitably) too expensive. So wed rather run the risk
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back the other way as well. And if it means we pay a little more in cash
because of further movement and dollar weakening, then thats what we do. |
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If you can just repeat the tax question one more time, Ill be happy
to answer that as well. |
Tom Yankou: Is there anything unique about your deal that would create a
Sulzer tax situation where Smith & Nephew apparently their deal does not
create a tax situation?
Sam Leno: We dont we dont believe so. No. We dont believe its true
for us, as a company. Nor do we believe its true for the shareholders
who will tender their shares to us.
Tom Yankou: OK. And then, the other question that we went over was Smith &
Nephew had the 75 percent minimum. You have a two-thirds minimum. Are
you sacrificing any flexibility if you get over two-thirds? Or what is it
that Swiss law allows you to do at two-thirds? Are you allowed to
consolidate the company? Are you allowed to take out the minority
shareholders?
Male: Yes. The most important point that youre I think, that youre
referencing is the ability to do a compulsory merger under Swiss law or
what was commonly referred to, in the United States, as a clean-up merger.
And the threshold under Swiss law is 98 percent. So the answer is no.
There isnt anything relevant from the clean-up merger perspective as
between 66.7 percent and 75 percent.
Tom Yankou: OK. Thank you.
Operator: Koray Ozdemir of Cathay Financial has our next question.
Koray Ozdemir: Actually, my question has been answered. Thank you.
Operator: Thank you, sir. Moving onto Ian Thomas of Commerz Bank.
Ian Thomas: Hi. Ive just got two questions on the regulatory side of this.
Firstly, can you tell us whether you made any submissions to the (EU) on
the Smith & Nephew filing that theyve made? And secondly, can you just
walk us through, again, you mentioned that you missed the thresholds on
the (EU) and, I guess, theres a worldwide sales threshold and then
theres an (EC) aspect to this in each individual state. Can you just
walk us through those two steps as to how you missed the filing
thresholds, please?
Male: Yes. The first question, with respect to the (EU) analysis relating to
Smith & Nephew, we did receive questionnaires and we provided responses to
those questionnaires and then follow-up questions were responded to as
well. That process, on our behalf, concluded just last Friday. As to how
the antitrust laws apply to our own transaction, its our understanding
that the threshold is two-and-a-half billion. Were below that threshold
and those are 2002 numbers aggregated.
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And so then you get into a member states analysis over there,
jurisdiction by jurisdiction, and there are various thresholds that
trigger different filing requirements in those jurisdictions. We have a
sense as to what thresholds were going to cross and what jurisdictions
well filing at this point in time, but there is further analysis and
information that we will need from Centerpulse to be able to conclude
that analysis. |
Ian Thomas: OK. But just in very rough terms, it looks like Smith & Nephew
have about $700 million of revenues in the (EU) compared to about your 170
million. I mean, is that the right numbers? Is that the right rough
split between yourself and Smith & Nephew in the (EU)?
Male: Well, their revenues would include a lot of products that arent
relevant to this comparison. Thats a pretty good at our number. And the
(queue) of number together, as I said earlier we dont see anything on
the surface, either looking at product lines or countries, that looks
alarming to us. Its
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a detailed process. But we dont see anything there that we consider
material. You also have to remember that the even if there was
something there, the remedies can tend to be not necessarily very
catastrophic something as simple as deleting one brand of a sub-segment
product line or something like that. So I havent seen anything like
that. But even if there was something there, the remedies are really not
material to whether we would do the entire deal anyway. |
Ian Thomas: Great. Thank you very much.
Male: Youre welcome.
Operator: Moving onto Craig Naude of Shorewater Limited.
Craig Naude: Thank you. Good morning, gentlemen, and congratulations. I
hope that the transaction proceeds relatively smoothly, although I have my
doubts. I wonder if you could just tell me quickly, the shareholder
meeting that you intend to hold for your own company, what kind of a
shareholder vote do you need to, you know, to make it probable from your
point of view? Thanks very much.
Male: We need a majority. And essentially, that vote is only triggered by
virtue of the fact that in excess of 20 percent of our outstanding shares
would be issued as part of this transaction. Its a New York Stock
Exchange rule that we would be complying with to get that vote.
Craig Naude: Thanks. And thats just a simple majority of outstanding
shares, is it?
Male: Thats right.
Craig Naude: Super. Thanks very much.
Operator: Drew Figdor of Tiedemann Investment Management.
Drew Figdor: Yes. Congratulations. I guess the only question I had was how
long do you think this will take to close? You mentioned the first date,
but you obviously have some regulatory approvals. Realistically, how long
do you think it takes to close?
Male: David, did you want to respond to that?
David Dvorak: The overall process is the question. Yes. The timetable that
weve referred to takes us through the end of August in rough timeframe.
You know, that could get adjusted by virtue of the Swiss takeover board
modifying schedules, including the schedules of the two competing offers.
But that would be a rough timeframe.
Drew Figdor: So youll due diligence and if takes four weeks, youll launch
the offer at a different time period or youll still launch it the 17th?
David Dvorak: The most probable due diligence would be between now and the
17th of June when we would conclude because certain legal rights melt away
at the point where the formal offer is launched. So a very intensive due
diligence time period leading up until the 17th. And thereafter, the
formal offer would be launched and we would move on towards mailing our
proxy statements so that we had a solicitation period that was compliant
with U.S. laws and set up for our shareholder meeting which would be held
in August.
Male: But clearly, Drew, the way we would approach the due diligence process
is we already have a pretty clear sense in our mind of the more important
issues that need to be addressed. We will focus on those first and clear
those away and use the remaining time that we do have due diligence to
deal with the less significant issues.
Drew Figdor: OK. And in the U.S., what is your market share in hips and
knees for ...
Male: It depends on are you saying U.S. only? We dont do it that way. We
do it by the Americas and combined hips and knees would be in the
neighborhood of 21 percent.
Drew Figdor: And can I get any breakout between the two?
Male: We normally dont break that out, but theres a number of analysts that
do a very good job on combining the figures together. We dont have
access to particularly good figures on (Defue) and (J&J), so we tend to
follow some of the lead analysts and I think thats probably a better
source.
Drew Figdor: OK. Thank you.
Male: Youre welcome.
Operator: Giorgio Nicola of Ursel has our next question.
Giorgio Nicola: Hello. I would like to ask what sort of reaction do you
expect from Centerpulses management in regards to your merger proposal?
Thank you.
Male: I dont know that we expect Im assuming you truly mean their
management as opposed to their board. Im not sure that we expect a
specific reaction. I think, you know, much as our management views our
role as on behalf of and on the behalf of our shareholders, I would hope
they would view it the same way. We certainly know a lot of them. We all
go to the same events. In many cases, people have been in other companies
and therefore know each other. So, on a personal basis, I would hope its
positive. But I think, at the end of the day, what really matters is that
they do the right thing, along with the board, on behalf of the
shareholders and I would
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expect that, you know, as I say, to be positive because, frankly, it
really is a compelling and superior offer, you know, both financially and
in terms of strategy and operating and the other things weve tried to
outline for you. |
Operator: Thank you, sir. It looks like we do have a follow-up from Mike
Weinstein.
Mike Weinstein: Hi, there. Can you hear me?
Male: Sure, Mike.
Mike Weinstein: OK. Real quick. Im not sure if we missed this, but did you
say what the bid was for InCentive or what the terms were?
Male: What the terms were theyre substantially the same terms as offered
for Centerpulse in its entirety and very similar to the offer or the
outline of the offer provided by Smith & Nephew.
Mike Weinstein: OK. So the total consideration, then, is versus the 3.2
what does that add to it? The 3.2 billion U.S. is the total consideration
for ...
Male: Yes. That is total consideration.
Mike Weinstein: OK.
Male: They have an 18.9 percent holding within that 3.2 and then theyve got
a couple hundred million of enterprise valued debt in there. So, but that
is inclusive of, not exclusive of.
Mike Weinstein: OK. Very good. Thank you very much.
Male: OK, Mike.
Operator: Yidan Wang has our next question from Deutsche Banc.
Yidan Wang: Thank you. I just wondered how long does Centerpulses board
have before they will have to give you the additional information you
need?
Male: That will ...
Yidan Wang: Is there a time limit on that?
Male: That will be worked through the Swiss takeover board. We, obviously,
will want to get access to that information as soon as possible. We have
a request list that is going over to the to the first right now and it
is also going through the Swiss takeover board. So we would expect to get
materials as soon as that can be coordinated, optimally no later than one
week would pass before we would be before we would have full access to
information and be engaged in a full due diligence process.
Yidan Wang: OK. So its primarily driven by administrative issues at the
Swiss takeover board rather than there being a sort of a particular time
that they must play by?
Male: Thats correct.
Yidan Wang: OK. Thank you.
Operator: Gentlemen, we have another follow-up from Drew Figdor.
Drew Figdor: Yes. I wonder if you could just explain to me again the
InCentive owns 19 percent and what right do they have to buy the stock, at
what price and is that why you have a two-thirds condition in it. Even if
they took it down, you had discussed it earlier. I didnt quite follow
it.
Male: Yes. The two-thirds condition could be met even if the other offer was
the route that the InCentive folks went. Thats right. Its 18.9
percent. But we would be able to meet two-thirds condition even if that
have pursued actually, even if even if Smith & Nephew matched a
superior offer and InCentive decided to go that way.
Drew Figdor: OK. So if they matched the offer InCentive could take the
Smith & Nephew offer and then you would they would own 19 percent of the
company.
Male: Thats correct. If Smith & Nephew stepped up and matched the superior
offer, then it could go their way on the 18.9 percent. But the balance of
the shares would go in whatever direction they deemed fit as far as which
of the two offers was found to be superior by the balance of the
shareholders.
Drew Figdor: OK. Thank you.
Operator: Gentlemen, we have another follow-up by Katherine Martinelli.
Katherine Martinelli: Just a couple quick questions. Just wondering what the
intangible amortization related to any finite life that was being
amortized as part of the acquisition?
Male: Katherine, that will be disclosed in the registration statement which
will come out in just a couple of days. Just in the interest of (FD) and
having everybody a chance to (bid) at one time. But clearly, there is a
large portion of it that will go into goodwill and not be amortized.
Weve made, as best we can, our initial estimates without the benefit of
any due diligence of what the what
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the amortizable portion and what the lines of those amortizable portions
should be. Its so preliminary right now that we do need to due
diligence to refine that to any appropriate degree. |
Katherine Martinelli: And are there any callers on a deal if theres a
significant move in (Zimmer) stock, one way or the other that would
trigger a change in the cash component?
Male: No callers.
Male: No callers.
Katherine Martinelli: Great. Thank you.
Male: Youre welcome.
Male: Do you have any other calls, Melinda?
Operator: Just one moment, gentlemen, while we assemble the roster.
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Gentlemen, we do have another question from Eva Haas of Schroder
Investment Management. |
Eva Haas: Hello.
Male: Morning.
Eva Haas: Good morning, or good afternoon for me.
Male: Yes.
Eva Haas: Just a very quick question. Ive seen it come up on the news
wires that youre expecting 15-percent EPS growth long term. Can you
confirm that and can you also say is that off an annualized base, or off
sort of a, you know, partial consolidation?
Male: Yes, I think it may be a little misleading. One of our acquisition
criteria, along with accretive, and less than two years and (those)
synergies and so on, one of acquisition criteria is the acquisition, when
combined, must contribute to a minimum of 15-percent growth on a
(calendarized) annual basis. Its an acquisition criteria and its a
minimum level.
Eva Haas: OK.
Male: I presume thats the 15 percent thats being referred to.
Eva Haas: Thanks for clarifying that.
Male: None that we we have no long-term guidance, if you will, on the
street.
Eva Haas: Thanks.
Male: My understanding is, Melinda, that thats the end of the questions, so
appreciate everybody its a huge group calling in. Were most
appreciative of your responding, I know on short notice. And to remind
you, we also do have the luncheon at the St. Regis (Versailles) Room at 12
noon, where well do a little more formal visual presentation, and if you
have additional questions, be happy to answer them then.
Operator: That does conclude todays conference. We do thank you for your
participation.
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